+1 for Sunday night. This also helps for more thorough testing of the
RocksDB version bumping up job [1].

Thanks.

Best Regards,
Yu

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-14482

On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at 17:06, Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org> wrote:

> Thanks a lot.
>
> It seems that a few people are supportive of the idea of moving the feature
> freeze to Friday.
> I would actually propose to make it *Sunday night* then. We'll then create
> the first release candidate on Monday morning, November 2nd.
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 1:27 PM Danny Chan <yuzhao....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Per FLIP-145, we have many runtime operators to implement and bridge it
> > with the planner.
> >
> > Best,
> > Danny Chan
> > 在 2020年10月19日 +0800 PM6:59,Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org>,写道:
> > > Thank you for your responses so far.
> > >
> > > @Kurt, Jingsong, Danny: Which JIRAs/FLIPs are going to benefit from the
> > > extension?
> > >
> > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 12:45 PM Aljoscha Krettek <aljos...@apache.org
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > @Robert Your (and Dian's) suggestions sound good to me! I like
> keeping
> > > > to master frozen for a while since it will prevent a lot of duplicate
> > > > merging efforts.
> > > >
> > > > Regarding the date: I'm fine with the proposed date but I can also
> see
> > > > that extending it to the end of the week could be helpful.
> > > >
> > > > Aljoscha
> > > >
> > > > On 19.10.20 12:24, Danny Chan wrote:
> > > > > +1 for Kurt suggestion, there are many features for SQL yet, 2 more
> > days
> > > > are valuable.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > Danny Chan
> > > > > 在 2020年10月19日 +0800 PM6:22,Jingsong Li <jingsongl...@gmail.com
> >,写道:
> > > > > > Hi Robert,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for your detailed explanation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At present, we are preparing or participating in Flink forward,
> so
> > +1
> > > > for
> > > > > > appropriate extension of deadline.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > Jingsong
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 5:36 PM Kurt Young <ykt...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Can we change the freeze date to October 30th (Friday next
> > week)? It
> > > > would
> > > > > > > be helpful
> > > > > > > for us if we have 2 more days.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > Kurt
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 5:00 PM Robert Metzger <
> > rmetz...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Dian and I would like to discuss a few items regarding the
> > upcoming
> > > > Flink
> > > > > > > > 1.12 feature freeze:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > *A) Exact feature freeze day*
> > > > > > > > So far, we've always said "end of October
> > > > > > > > <
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/1.12+Release>" for
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > freeze. We propose (end of day CEST) October 28th (Wednesday
> > next
> > > > week)
> > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > the feature freeze time.
> > > > > > > > We want to create RC0 on the day after the feature freeze, to
> > make
> > > > sure
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > RC creation process is running smoothly, and to have a common
> > testing
> > > > > > > > reference point.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > *B) What does feature freeze mean?*After the feature freeze,
> > no new
> > > > > > > > features are allowed to be merged to master. Only bug fixes
> and
> > > > > > > > documentation improvements.
> > > > > > > > The release managers will revert new feature commits after
> the
> > feature
> > > > > > > > freeze.
> > > > > > > > Rational: The goal of the feature freeze phase is to improve
> > the
> > > > system
> > > > > > > > stability by addressing known bugs. New features tend to
> > introduce new
> > > > > > > > instabilities, which would prolong the release process.
> > > > > > > > If you need to merge a new feature after the freeze, please
> > open a
> > > > > > > > discussion on the dev@ list. If there are no objections by a
> > PMC
> > > > member
> > > > > > > > within 48 (workday)hours, the feature can be merged.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > *C) When to cut the "release-1.12" branch off master?*
> > > > > > > > In the last feature freeze, we had a pretty lengthy phase of
> > > > maintaining
> > > > > > > > the "master" and "release-1.11" branches with the same fixes.
> > > > Therefore,
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > would like to propose an adjustment to the release process:
> We
> > will
> > > > have
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > stabilization phase on master, between the feature freeze and
> > the
> > > > branch
> > > > > > > > cut.
> > > > > > > > I expect this stabilization phase to last between 1 and 3
> > weeks,
> > > > > > > depending
> > > > > > > > on the issues we find. Once all blockers are resolved, and no
> > new
> > > > > > > blockers
> > > > > > > > are surfacing, we can cut off the "release-1.12" branch and
> > finalize
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > release.
> > > > > > > > Is anybody in the community waiting for the cut off to happen
> > sooner
> > > > so
> > > > > > > > that they can merge a big feature to Flink 1.13 ? (if that
> > would be
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > case, then we can not have a stabilization phase)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Let me know what you think!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > Dian and Robert
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Best, Jingsong Lee
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
>

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