Great. Easiest discussion thread ever.

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-20551

On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 6:55 AM Wei Zhong <[email protected]> wrote:

> +1
>
> This is a very good proposal. The Python Table API documentation also
> contains some code that still uses the old planner. We may need to do the
> same for the Python Table API documentation in the future.
>
> Best,
> Wei
>
> > 在 2020年12月9日,12:35,Jark Wu <[email protected]> 写道:
> >
> > +1
> >
> > This is a very good idea.
> >
> > Best,
> > Jark
> >
> > On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 at 10:43, Xingbo Huang <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> +1
> >>
> >> This is a very good proposal.In release-1.12, many newly added features
> are
> >> only supported on the blink planner. For example, the newly added
> features
> >> of PyFlnk in FLIP-137[1] and FLIP-139[2] are only available on the blink
> >> planner.
> >>
> >> [1]
> >>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-137%3A+Support+Pandas+UDAF+in+PyFlink
> >> [2]
> >>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-139%3A+General+Python+User-Defined+Aggregate+Function+Support+on+Table+API
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Xingbo
> >>
> >> Leonard Xu <[email protected]> 于2020年12月9日周三 上午9:46写道:
> >>
> >>> +1
> >>>
> >>> Very good proposal, blink planner has been the default planner since
> >> Flink
> >>> 1.11.0, and many new features are not supported in legacy planner.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>> Leonard
> >>>
> >>>> 在 2020年12月9日,05:15,Arvid Heise <[email protected]> 写道:
> >>>>
> >>>> +1, add a small info box about legacy planner and point to 1.11 doc
> >>>> (nothing should have changed)
> >>>>
> >>>> Ideally, "legacy" and "blink" does not appear anywhere in the doc
> >> (except
> >>>> for that info box)
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 6:35 PM Marta Paes Moreira <
> [email protected]
> >>>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> +1, this is confusing (esp. for new users) and also creates more and
> >>> more
> >>>>> "annotation clutter" as new features are added.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 5:30 PM Aljoscha Krettek <[email protected]
> >
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> +1
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Yes, please!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 08.12.20 16:52, David Anderson wrote:
> >>>>>>> I agree -- I think separating out the legacy planner info should
> >> make
> >>>>>>> things clearer for everyone, and then some day we can simply drop
> >> it.
> >>>>>> Plus,
> >>>>>>> doing it now will make it easier to make improvements to the docs
> >>> going
> >>>>>>> forward.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> David
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 4:38 PM Timo Walther <[email protected]>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi Seth,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> this is a very good idea. We might not be able to remove the
> legacy
> >>>>>>>> planner immediately but at least we can make the docs easier for
> >>>>> current
> >>>>>>>> and future users of the Blink planner.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Making the SQL docs Blink-only with a dedicated legacy planner
> page
> >>>>>>>> sounds good to me.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>> Timo
> >>>>>>>> On 08.12.20 16:36, Seth Wiesman wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Hi Everyone,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I've been spending a lot of time recently working on the SQL
> >>>>>>>> documentation
> >>>>>>>>> and I'm finding it very difficult to explain semantics as the two
> >>>>> table
> >>>>>>>>> planners continue to diverge. As Blink has been the default
> >> planner
> >>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>> some time, and 1.12 now offers bounded data stream support, how
> >> does
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> community feel about making the documentation "blink only"?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> We would update the documentation to assume users are always
> using
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> Blink planner. As the legacy planner still exists we would create
> >> a
> >>>>>>>>> dedicated legacy planner page for users that have not migrated
> for
> >>>>>>>> whatever
> >>>>>>>>> reason - likely dataset interop. On this page, we would clearly
> >> list
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> features that are not supported by the legacy planner and any
> >>>>> semantics
> >>>>>>>>> that differ from the Blink planner.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Seth
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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