Hi all,
Thanks for the feedback, It seems that the proposal is accepted by all of
you guys. I will prepare a formal FLIP document and then go ahead to the
vote stage.
If any one has any other comments or suggestions, please let me know,
thanks.

Best,
Wenlong

On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 at 05:54, Neng Lu <nl...@apache.org> wrote:

> +1 (non-binding)
> This change will really help to ease developer life.
>
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 6:33 AM Guowei Ma <guowei....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> +1
>> This would be very helpful for our debugging online job.
>>
>> Best,
>> Guowei
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 8:03 PM Yuepeng Pan <flin...@126.com> wrote:
>>
>> > +1. It's useful to understand the job topology.
>> > Looking forward to this feature.
>> > Best,
>> > Yuepeng Pan.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > At 2021-11-11 19:44:44, "Yangze Guo" <karma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >+1. That's gonna help a lot for debugging.
>> > >
>> > >Best,
>> > >Yangze Guo
>> > >
>> > >On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 7:37 PM Till Rohrmann <trohrm...@apache.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> This improvement looks like it makes the life of our users a lot
>> easier
>> > >> when it comes to understanding logs and reading the UI. Hence +1.
>> > >>
>> > >> Cheers,
>> > >> Till
>> > >>
>> > >> On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 11:59 AM JING ZHANG <beyond1...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> > Big +1.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > This is a problem frequently encountered in our production
>> platform,
>> > look
>> > >> > forward to this improvement.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Best,
>> > >> > Jing Zhang
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Martijn Visser <mart...@ververica.com> 于2021年11月11日周四 下午6:26写道:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > > +1. Looks much better now
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 at 11:07, godfrey he <godfre...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > > Thanks for driving this, this improvement solves a
>> long-complained
>> > >> > > > problem, +1
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > Best,
>> > >> > > > Godfrey
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > Jark Wu <imj...@gmail.com> 于2021年11月11日周四 下午5:40写道:
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > +1 for this. It looks much more clear and structured.
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > Best,
>> > >> > > > > Jark
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 at 17:23, Chesnay Schepler <
>> > ches...@apache.org>
>> > >> > > > wrote:
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > I'm generally in favor of it, and there are already tickets
>> > that
>> > >> > > > > > proposed a dedicated operator/vertex description:
>> > >> > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-20388
>> > >> > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-21858
>> > >> > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > On 11/11/2021 10:02, wenlong.lwl wrote:
>> > >> > > > > > > Hi, all, I would like to start a discussion about an
>> > improvement
>> > >> > on
>> > >> > > > name
>> > >> > > > > > > and structure of job vertex name, mainly to improve
>> > experience of
>> > >> > > > > > debugging
>> > >> > > > > > > and analyzing sql job at runtime.
>> > >> > > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > > the main proposed changes including:
>> > >> > > > > > > 1. separate description and name for operator, so that we
>> > can
>> > >> > have
>> > >> > > > > > detailed
>> > >> > > > > > > info at description and shorter name, which could be more
>> > >> > friendly
>> > >> > > > for
>> > >> > > > > > > external systems like logging/metrics without losing
>> useful
>> > >> > > > information.
>> > >> > > > > > > 2. introduce a tree-mode vertex description which can
>> make
>> > the
>> > >> > > > > > description
>> > >> > > > > > > more readable and easier to understand
>> > >> > > > > > > 3. clean up and improve description for sql operator
>> > >> > > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > > here is an example with the changes for a sql job:
>> > >> > > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > > vertex name:
>> > >> > > > > > > GlobalGroupAggregate[52] -> (Calc[53] ->
>> > NotNullEnforcer[54] ->
>> > >> > > Sink:
>> > >> > > > > > > tb_ads_dwi_pub_hbd_spm_dtr_002_003[54], Calc[55] ->
>> > >> > > > NotNullEnforcer[56]
>> > >> > > > > > ->
>> > >> > > > > > > Sink: tb_ads_dwi_pub_hbd_spm_dtr_002_004[56])
>> > >> > > > > > > vertex description:
>> > >> > > > > > > [52]:GlobalGroupAggregate(groupBy=[stat_date, spm_url_ab,
>> > >> > client],
>> > >> > > > > > > select=[stat_date, spm_url_ab, client, COUNT(count1$0) AS
>> > >> > > > > > > clk_cnt_app_mtr_001, COUNT(distinct$0 count$1) AS
>> > >> > > clk_uv_app_mtr_001,
>> > >> > > > > > > COUNT(count1$2) AS clk_cnt_app_mtr_002, COUNT(distinct$0
>> > count$3)
>> > >> > > AS
>> > >> > > > > > > clk_uv_app_mtr_002, COUNT(count1$4) AS
>> clk_cnt_app_mtr_003,
>> > >> > > > > > > COUNT(distinct$0 count$5) AS clk_uv_app_mtr_003]) :-
>> > >> > > > > > > [53]:Calc(select=[CASE((client <> ''),
>> CONCAT_WS('\u0004',
>> > >> > > > > > > CONCAT(SUBSTRING(MD5(CONCAT(spm_url_ab, '12345')), 1, 4),
>> > >> > ':md5'),
>> > >> > > > > > > CONCAT(spm_url_ab, ':spmab'), '12345:app', CONCAT(client,
>> > >> > > ':client'),
>> > >> > > > > > > CONCAT('ddd:', stat_date)), null:VARCHAR(2147483647)) AS
>> > rowkey,
>> > >> > > > > > > clk_cnt_app_mtr_001 AS clk_cnt_app_dtr_001,
>> > clk_uv_app_mtr_001 AS
>> > >> > > > > > > clk_uv_app_dtr_001, clk_cnt_app_mtr_002 AS
>> > clk_cnt_app_dtr_002,
>> > >> > > > > > > clk_uv_app_mtr_002 AS clk_uv_app_dtr_002,
>> > clk_cnt_app_mtr_003 AS
>> > >> > > > > > > clk_cnt_app_dtr_003, clk_uv_app_mtr_003 AS
>> > clk_uv_app_dtr_003]) :
>> > >> > > +-
>> > >> > > > > > > [54]:NotNullEnforcer(fields=[rowkey]) : +-
>> > >> > > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > >
>> > >> >
>> >
>> [54]:Sink(table=[default_catalog.default_database.tb_ads_dwi_pub_hbd_spm_dtr_002_003],
>> > >> > > > > > > fields=[rowkey, clk_cnt_app_dtr_001, clk_uv_app_dtr_001,
>> > >> > > > > > > clk_cnt_app_dtr_002, clk_uv_app_dtr_002,
>> > clk_cnt_app_dtr_003,
>> > >> > > > > > > clk_uv_app_dtr_003]) +- [55]:Calc(select=[CASE((client <>
>> > ''),
>> > >> > > > > > > CONCAT_WS('\u0004',
>> CONCAT(SUBSTRING(MD5(CONCAT(spm_url_ab,
>> > >> > > > '12345')), 1,
>> > >> > > > > > > 4), ':md5'), CONCAT(spm_url_ab, ':spmab'), '12345:app',
>> > >> > > > CONCAT('ddd:',
>> > >> > > > > > > stat_date), CONCAT(client, ':client')), (client = ''),
>> > >> > > > > > CONCAT_WS('\u0004',
>> > >> > > > > > > CONCAT(SUBSTRING(MD5(CONCAT(spm_url_ab, '92459')), 1, 4),
>> > >> > ':md5'),
>> > >> > > > > > > CONCAT(spm_url_ab, ':spmab'), '92459:app', CONCAT('ddd:',
>> > >> > > > stat_date)),
>> > >> > > > > > > null:VARCHAR(2147483647)) AS rowkey, clk_cnt_app_mtr_001
>> AS
>> > >> > > > > > > clk_cnt_app_dtr_001, clk_uv_app_mtr_001 AS
>> > clk_uv_app_dtr_001,
>> > >> > > > > > > clk_cnt_app_mtr_002 AS clk_cnt_app_dtr_002,
>> > clk_uv_app_mtr_002 AS
>> > >> > > > > > > clk_uv_app_dtr_002, clk_cnt_app_mtr_003 AS
>> > clk_cnt_app_dtr_003,
>> > >> > > > > > > clk_uv_app_mtr_003 AS clk_uv_app_dtr_003]) +-
>> > >> > > > > > > [56]:NotNullEnforcer(fields=[rowkey]) +-
>> > >> > > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > >
>> > >> >
>> >
>> [56]:Sink(table=[default_catalog.default_database.tb_ads_dwi_pub_hbd_spm_dtr_002_004],
>> > >> > > > > > > fields=[rowkey, clk_cnt_app_dtr_001, clk_uv_app_dtr_001,
>> > >> > > > > > > clk_cnt_app_dtr_002, clk_uv_app_dtr_002,
>> > clk_cnt_app_dtr_003,
>> > >> > > > > > > clk_uv_app_dtr_003])
>> > >> > > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > > For more detail on the proposal:
>> > >> > > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > >
>> > >> >
>> >
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VUVJeHY_We09GY53-K2lETP3HUNZG9wMKyecFWk_Wxk
>> > >> > > > > > > <
>> > >> > > > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > >
>> > >> >
>> >
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VUVJeHY_We09GY53-K2lETP3HUNZG9wMKyecFWk_Wxk/edit#
>> > >> > > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > > Looking forward to your feedback, thanks.
>> > >> > > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > > Bests
>> > >> > > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > > Wenlong Lyu
>> > >> > > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > >
>> > >> >
>> >
>>
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