I'm also fine with the end of July for the feature freeze.

Best,
Jark

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 at 21:00, Martijn Visser <mart...@ververica.com> wrote:

> +1 for continuing to strive for a 5 months release cycle.
>
> And +1 to have the planned feature freeze mid August, which I would propose
> to have happen on Monday the 15th of August 2022. I would also already
> state that even though we know this is a holiday period, we should not
> extend this deadline for that reason :)
>
> Best regards,
>
> Martijn Visser
> https://twitter.com/MartijnVisser82
> https://github.com/MartijnVisser
>
>
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 at 14:37, Jingsong Li <jingsongl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the check.
> >
> > > Continue to strive for a 5 months release cycle and 1.5 months before
> to
> > the desired release date
> >
> > Sounds good to me!
> >
> > Best,
> > Jingsong
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 7:06 PM Konstantin Knauf <kna...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > thank you for the feedback so far. I've checked the length of the
> > previous
> > > last release cycles. Up until Flink 1.14, we've actually been
> incredibly
> > > good at maintaining a 5 months release cycle (see below).
> Interestingly,
> > > the community is officially targeting a 4 months release cycle [1].
> > >
> > > - 1.15.0 2022-05-01? (7 months, 2 days?)
> > > - 1.14.0: 2021-09-29 (4 months, 26 days)
> > > - 1.13.0: 2021-05-03 (4 months, 23 days)
> > > - 1.12.0: 2020-12-10 (5 months, 3 days)
> > > - 1.11.0: 2020-07-07 (4 months, 26 days)
> > > - 1.10.0: 2020-02-11
> > >
> > > The 1.15 release cycle has took significantly longer. In my opinion we
> > > should try to get back into the 5 months cadence with the next release.
> > > Since empirically we always often end up moving the the feature freeze
> > by a
> > > week or two, and that we often need about a month for release testing &
> > > stabilization and releasing, I don't think, we should move the planned
> > > feature freeze to later than
> > > *mid August. *
> > > What do you think:
> > > 1. Should we continue to strive for a 5 months release cycle (and
> update
> > > [1] accordingly)?
> > > 2. Does it sound reasonable to target a feature freeze date, which is
> 1.5
> > > months before to the desired release date?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Konstantin
> > >
> > >  [1]
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Time-based+releases
> > >
> > > Am Do., 28. Apr. 2022 um 05:20 Uhr schrieb Jingsong Li <
> > > jingsongl...@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > > Thanks Konstantin and Chesnay for starting the discussion. And thanks
> > > > Konstantin, Chesnay, Godfrey, Martijn for volunteering.
> > > >
> > > > The 1.16 release at the end of July means that there are currently
> > > > only 3 months to fully commit to 1.16 development, and I'm a little
> > > > concerned that this is too short a time frame, which may result in
> > > > some features only reaching a halfway decent state.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Jingsong
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 7:10 PM David Morávek <d...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks Konstantin and Chesnay for starting the discussion and
> > > > volunteering.
> > > > > The timeline proposal sounds reasonable :+1:
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > D.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 1:37 PM Martijn Visser <
> > martijnvis...@apache.org
> > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for starting this discussion. I would also volunteer to
> help
> > > > out as
> > > > > > a release manager for the 1.16 release.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Martijn Visser
> > > > > > https://twitter.com/MartijnVisser82
> > > > > > https://github.com/MartijnVisser
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 at 13:19, godfrey he <godfre...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Konstantin & Chesnay,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for driving this discussion, I am willing to volunteer
> as
> > the
> > > > > > > release manager for 1.16.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > Godfrey
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Konstantin Knauf <kna...@apache.org> 于2022年4月26日周二 18:23写道:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > With Flink 1.15 about to be released, the community has
> started
> > > > > > planning
> > > > > > > &
> > > > > > > > developing features for the next release, Flink 1.16. As
> such,
> > I
> > > > would
> > > > > > > like
> > > > > > > > to start a discussion around managing this release.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Specifically, Chesnay & myself would like to volunteer as
> > release
> > > > > > > managers.
> > > > > > > > Our focus as release managers would be
> > > > > > > > * to propose a release timeline
> > > > > > > > * to provide an overview of all ongoing development threads
> and
> > > > ideally
> > > > > > > > their current status to the community
> > > > > > > > * to keep an eye on build stability
> > > > > > > > * facilitate release testing
> > > > > > > > * to do the actual release incl. communication (blog post,
> > etc.)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Is anyone else interested in acting as a release manager for
> > Flink
> > > > > > 1.16?
> > > > > > > If
> > > > > > > > so, we are happy to make this a joint effort.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Besides the question of who will act as a release manager, I
> > > > think, we
> > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > already use this thread to align on a timeline. For
> collecting
> > > > features
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > everything else, we would start a dedicated threads shortly.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Given Flink 1.15 will be released in the next days, and
> aiming
> > for
> > > > a 4
> > > > > > > > months release cycle including stabilization, this would mean
> > > > *feature
> > > > > > > > freeze at the end of July*. The exact date could be
> determined
> > > > later.
> > > > > > Any
> > > > > > > > thoughts on the timeline.?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Looking forward to your thoughts!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Chesnay & Konstantin
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
>

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