+1 (non-binding)

On Sat, Oct 29, 2022 at 2:21 AM Tzu-Li (Gordon) Tai <tzuli...@apache.org>
wrote:

> +1
>
> On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 10:21 AM Konstantin Knauf <kna...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > +1 (binding)
> >
> > Am Fr., 28. Okt. 2022 um 16:58 Uhr schrieb Piotr Nowojski <
> > pnowoj...@apache.org>:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > As discussed on the dev mailing list [0] I would like to start a vote
> to
> > > drop support of older savepoint formats (for Flink versions older than
> > > 1.8). You can find the original explanation from the aforementioned dev
> > > mailing list thread at the bottom of this message.
> > >
> > > Draft PR containing the proposed change you can find here:
> > > https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/21056
> > >
> > > Vote will be open at least until Wednesday, November 2nd 18:00 CET.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Piotrek
> > >
> > > [0] https://lists.apache.org/thread/v1q28zg5jhxcqrpq67pyv291nznd3n0w
> > >
> > > I would like to open a discussion to remove the long deprecated
> > > (@PublicEvolving) TypeSerializerConfigSnapshot class [1] and the
> related
> > > code.
> > >
> > > The motivation behind this move is two fold. One reason is that it
> > > complicates our code base unnecessarily and creates confusion on how to
> > > actually implement custom serializers. The immediate reason is that I
> > > wanted to clean up Flink's configuration stack a bit and refactor the
> > > ExecutionConfig class [2]. This refactor would keep the API
> compatibility
> > > of the ExecutionConfig, but it would break savepoint compatibility with
> > > snapshots written with some of the old serializers, which had
> > > ExecutionConfig as a field and were serialized in the snapshot. This
> > issue
> > > has been resolved by the introduction of TypeSerializerSnapshot in
> Flink
> > > 1.7 [3], where serializers are no longer part of the snapshot.
> > >
> > > TypeSerializerConfigSnapshot has been deprecated and no longer used by
> > > built-in serializers since Flink 1.8 [4] and [5]. Users were encouraged
> > to
> > > migrate to TypeSerializerSnapshot since then with their own custom
> > > serializers. That has been plenty of time for the migration.
> > >
> > > This proposal would have the following impact for the users:
> > > 1. we would drop support for recovery from savepoints taken with Flink
> <
> > > 1.7.0 for all built in types serializers
> > > 2. we would drop support for recovery from savepoints taken with Flink
> <
> > > 1.8.0 for built in kryo serializers
> > > 3. we would drop support for recovery from savepoints taken with Flink
> <
> > > 1.17 for custom serializers using deprecated
> TypeSerializerConfigSnapshot
> > >
> > > 1. and 2. would have a simple migration path. Users migrating from
> those
> > > old savepoints would have to first start his job using a Flink version
> > from
> > > the [1.8, 1.16] range, and take a new savepoint that would be
> compatible
> > > with Flink 1.17.
> > > 3. This is a bit more problematic, because users would have to first
> > > migrate their own custom serializers to use TypeSerializerSnapshot
> > (using a
> > > Flink version from the [1.8, 1.16]), take a savepoint, and only then
> > > migrate to Flink 1.17. However users had already 4 years to migrate,
> > which
> > > in my opinion has been plenty of time to do so.
> > >
> > > As a side effect, we could also drop support for some of the legacy
> > > metadata serializers from LegacyStateMetaInfoReaders and potentially
> > other
> > > places that we are keeping for the sake of compatibility with old
> > > savepoints.
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://nightlies.apache.org/flink/flink-docs-master/api/java/org/apache/flink/api/common/typeutils/TypeSerializerConfigSnapshot.html
> > > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-29379
> > > [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-9377
> > > [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-9376
> > > [5] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-11323
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > https://github.com/knaufk
> >
>


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Best,
Hangxiang.

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