Hi all,

+1 for reverting it.

I'd like to volunteer as the release manager of 1.18.1 and will send the
discussion email for the 1.18 release asap.

Best regards,
Jing

On Fri, Dec 8, 2023 at 1:26 AM Rui Fan <1996fan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> +1 for reverting it.
>
> Also, I’m not sure should we release 1.18.1 as soon as possible after it’s
> merged. If I understand correctly, users cannot upgrade flink job from
> 1.18.0 to 1.18.1 directly if we reverting it in 1.18.1, right?
>
> If so, it’s better to release 1.18.1 asap, and try to avoid users to use a
> wrong Data type.
> Looking forward to hearing from you, thank you.
>
> Best,
> Rui
>
> On Fri, 8 Dec 2023 at 00:28, Xingcan Cui <xingc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Thanks for bringing this up, Peter. I'm +1 for reverting the change.
> >
> > Best,
> > Xingcan
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 10:40 AM Martijn Visser <martijnvis...@apache.org
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Agree with what has been said already. I've marked
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-33523 as a blocker ticket
> > > for 1.18.1
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Martijn
> > >
> > > On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 4:25 PM Márton Balassi <
> balassi.mar...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, for raising this Peter. +1 for reverting the change.
> > > >
> > > > Given the response from Timo and Aitozi, I believe it would be best
> if
> > we
> > > > could ship reverting the change in 1.18.1.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 2:47 PM Aitozi <gjying1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Peter, Timo
> > > > >     Sorry for this breaking change, I didn't notice that was a
> > breaking
> > > > > change.
> > > > > I'm +1 to revert the FLINK-33523
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > aitozi
> > > > >
> > > > > Timo Walther <twal...@apache.org> 于2023年12月7日周四 20:41写道:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Peter,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > thanks for reaching out to the Flink community. This is indeed a
> > > serious
> > > > > > issue. As the author of the Flink type system, DataType and many
> > > related
> > > > > > utilities I strongly vote for reverting FLINK-33523:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - It changes the Flink type system without a FLIP.
> > > > > > - It breaks backwards compatibility with UDFs and connectors.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Timo
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 07.12.23 07:38, Péter Váry wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi Team,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We are working on upgrading the Iceberg-Flink connector from
> 1.17
> > > to
> > > > > > 1.18,
> > > > > > > and found that some of our tests are failing. Prabhu Joseph
> > > created a
> > > > > > jira
> > > > > > > [1] to discuss this issue, along with short example code.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In a nutshell:
> > > > > > > - Create a table with an 'ARRAY<INT NOT NULL>' column
> > > > > > > - Run a select which returns this column
> > > > > > > - The return type changes:
> > > > > > >      - From 'Object[]' - in 1.17
> > > > > > >      - To 'int[]' - in 1.18
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The change is introduced by this jira [2].
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > While I understand the reasoning behind this change, this will
> > > break
> > > > > some
> > > > > > > users existing workflow as evidenced by Xingcan Cui finding
> this
> > > > > > > independently [3].
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What is the opinion of the community about this change?
> > > > > > > - Do we want to revert the change?
> > > > > > > - Do we ask the owners of the change to make this behavior
> > > > > configurable?
> > > > > > > - Do we accept this behavior change in a minor release?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > Peter
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [1] - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-33523 -
> > DataType
> > > > > > > ARRAY<INT NOT NULL> fails to cast into Object[]
> > > > > > > [2] - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-31835 -
> > > DataTypeHint
> > > > > > > don't support Row<i Array<int>>
> > > > > > > [3] - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-33547 - SQL
> > > > > primitive
> > > > > > > array type after upgrading to Flink 1.18.0
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
>

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