Thanks Alan for starting this flip!

+1 for the new `supportsConstantFolding`. We do need to reserve the
ability to not perform constant folding for certain cases.

Best,
Lincoln Lee


Alan Sheinberg <asheinb...@confluent.io.invalid> 于2024年5月7日周二 08:32写道:

> Hi Muhammet, Timo
>
> The `isDeterministic()`[1] function is mentioned in the documentation,
> > I would suggest to add maybe a section for `supportsConstantFolding()`,
> > with short description and examples use cases (similar to the
> > motivation of the FLIP) where this could be useful in UDFs.
> >
> Thanks for the suggestion.  I'll do that.
>
>  Feel free to start a vote thread by tomorrow. If there are no objections?
>
> Sounds good. I'll do that tomorrow if I hear no objections by then.
>
> Thanks,
> Alan
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 8:12 AM Timo Walther <twal...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Alan,
> >
> > thanks for the update. From my side, the FLIP seems good for voting.
> >
> > Since it only touches a small API surface, I guess the proposal is not
> > very controversial.
> >
> > Feel free to start a vote thread by tomorrow. If there are no objections?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Timo
> >
> >
> > On 02.05.24 09:45, Muhammet Orazov wrote:
> > > Hey Alan,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the proposal, +1!
> > >
> > > The `isDeterministic()`[1] function is mentioned in the documentation,
> > > I would suggest to add maybe a section for `supportsConstantFolding()`,
> > > with short description and examples use cases (similar to the
> > > motivation of the FLIP) where this could be useful in UDFs.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Muhammet
> > >
> > > [1]:
> > >
> >
> https://nightlies.apache.org/flink/flink-docs-release-1.19/docs/dev/table/functions/udfs/#evaluation-methods
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2024-04-29 22:57, Alan Sheinberg wrote:
> > >> I'd like to start a discussion of FLIP-452: Allow Skipping Invocation
> of
> > >> Function Calls While Constant-folding [1]
> > >>
> > >> This feature proposes adding a new
> > >> method FunctionDefinition.allowConstantFolding() as part of the Flink
> > >> Table/SQL API.  This would be used to determine whether an expression
> > >> containing this function should have constant-folding logic run on it,
> > >> invoking the function at planning time.
> > >>
> > >> The current behavior of always doing constant-folding on function
> > >> calls is
> > >> problematic for UDFs which invoke RPCs or have other side effects in
> > >> external systems.  In these cases, you either don’t want these actions
> > to
> > >> occur during planning time, or it may be important to happen on a per
> > >> result row basis.
> > >>
> > >> Note that this is a bit different than
> > >> FunctionDefinition.isDeterministic(), and can exist along-side it.
> > >>
> > >> Looking forward to your feedback and suggestions.
> > >>
> > >> [1]
> > >>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-452%3A+Allow+Skipping+Invocation+of+Function+Calls+While+Constant-folding
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Alan
> > >
> >
> >
>

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