We will first discuss whether to replace the RPC service with Akka or not. Depending on the outcome we can discuss the issue of this vote again.
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Kostas Tzoumas <ktzou...@apache.org> wrote: > +1 > > > > > On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Aljoscha Krettek <aljos...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > +1 > > I think it's good to outsource functionality that is not our main > > competency. Because of the origins of Flink in research we suffered a > > bit from NIH in the beginning. I'm happy to see this reduced piece by > > piece now. > > > > On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 1:50 AM, Henry Saputra <henry.sapu...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > You can create patch then ask for VOTE as needed but with a lot of > > > work involved I think it would be better to get some kind of agreement > > > of the proposed solution before continuing. > > > > > > - Henry > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Sebastian Schelter <s...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > >> Hi Ufuk, > > >> > > >> It is up to the project where to vote upfront before working on a code > > >> change or whether to do it afterwards. > > >> > > >> --sebastian > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> 2014-09-03 15:55 GMT-07:00 Ufuk Celebi <u...@apache.org>: > > >> > > >>> Hey Daniel, > > >>> > > >>> I am sure that Till didn't try to set up the vote towards his desired > > >>> outcome. Actually it should conform to the Apache Voting Process. > > >>> > > >>> Quoting from http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html: > > >>> > > >>> "Expressing Votes: +1, 0, -1, and Fractions > > >>> > > >>> The voting process in Apache may seem more than a little weird if > > you've > > >>> never encountered it before. Votes are represented as numbers between > > -1 > > >>> and +1, with '-1' meaning 'no' and '+1' meaning 'yes.' > > >>> > > >>> [...] > > >>> > > >>> +0: 'I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with this.' > > >>> -0: 'I won't get in the way, but I'd rather we didn't do this.' > > >>> > > >>> [...] > > >>> > > >>> Vetos > > >>> > > >>> A code-modification proposal may be stopped dead in its tracks by a > -1 > > vote > > >>> by a qualified voter. This constitutes a veto, and it cannot be > > overruled > > >>> nor overridden by anyone. Vetos stand until and unless withdrawn by > > their > > >>> casters. > > >>> > > >>> To prevent vetos from being used capriciously, they must be > > accompanied by > > >>> a technical justification showing why the change is bad (opens a > > security > > >>> exposure, negatively affects performance, etc. ). A veto without a > > >>> justification is invalid and has no weight." > > >>> > > >>> The only thing I'm not sure about is whether "upfront" votes are > > usual. If > > >>> this was a code modification (PR or commit), the way that this is > setup > > >>> should definitely be OK. Maybe a mentor can help with this? > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 12:11 AM, Daniel Warneke <warn...@apache.org> > > >>> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > Hi, > > >>> > > > >>> > sorry, but I think the way this vote is set up is already biased > > towards > > >>> > the author’s desired outcome. Two out of the three possible options > > >>> > effectively lead to the switch to Scala. Moreover, the -1 option > > requires > > >>> > the voter to explain his/her decision, the +1 option does not. > > >>> > > > >>> > Best regards, > > >>> > > > >>> > Daniel > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > Am 03.09.2014 22:58, schrieb Till Rohrmann: > > >>> > > > >>> > In the wake of replacing the current proprietary RPC service with > an > > >>> Akka > > >>> >> service, we have to rewrite the JobManager and TaskManager. Akka > is > > >>> >> implemented in Scala and offers bindings for Scala as well as > Java. > > >>> Since > > >>> >> the implementation using Scala would probably be neater and less > > >>> verbose, > > >>> >> we would like to use Scala for the reimplementation. That would > > imply > > >>> that > > >>> >> Flink's runtime module would become a mixed Java and Scala > project. > > >>> >> > > >>> >> So please vote whether Scala should be used for rewriting the > > JobManager > > >>> >> and TaskManager or not. > > >>> >> > > >>> >> The vote will be open for at least 72 hours. > > >>> >> > > >>> >> [ ] +1 Using Scala for reimplementation > > >>> >> [ ] 0 I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with using > Scala > > >>> >> [ ] -1 Do not use Scala because... > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> > > > >>> > > >
