(See also previous discussion in this thread.) Diwaker Gupta wrote: > > > We need to be clear on what we are going to achieve and how *before* > > > having a Forrest Tuesday event. > > > > To an extent. It is very hard to be clear beforehand. > > I agree. Besides, I think FT's provide a unique opportunity for people > to collaboratively explore new directions. This is important, because > even if we are clear on what we want to achieve, unexpected surprises > might come up on the way (implementation details/limitations that we > didn't think of earlier etc) so we need some kind of "slack". > > > > No, having asynchronous discussion will sort out the issues. This is not > > > noise, it is very important dicussion that is analysing the experimental > > > work carried out on Forrest Tuesday. We have to find what is valuable > > > about that approach and what is valuable about the alternative > > > approaches that have not yet been worked on. > > It will sort out issues eventually. But I agree with Gavin that there > seems to be a lot of confusion as to what was achieved and how > valuable it was during the last FT.
For me it was extremely valuable and am looking forward to the next one. I reckon that the confusion is mainly because we have a hard topic, and secondly because some things are hard to talk about in email. > Personally, I think it was great > -- well begun is half done, and I think after all those discussions on > XHTML2 it was a good first step. True we might have wasted time, and > we might end up implementing the same thing over and over again -- > apart from the learning experience people had, I think this has value > of its own in terms of understanding exactly what are the hard > problems that we need to focus on. > > > I wonder if we can gather together for an hour or two > > to just discuss in real time where we are going. > > Define some objectives. > > > > It could be an IRC session. For me the other day > > i found it difficult to hold multi-facetted discussion. > > Still worthwhile. > > > > It could be a Skype internet telephony session. > > That would also be difficult with a large number > > of people. It could work if we all allow space for > > other people to talk, only talk when we really need. > > Perhaps a round-robin where we take it in turns > > to add our pieces with the chair pulling up people > > that go on too long. > > > > This would be open to anyone to be involved. > > We would need to bring a summary back to the list. > > > > This is not something that we would do on a regular > > basis, but it seems that occasional sessions might help. > > I am reluctant to suggest it, because we all know > > that mailing list communication is the way to enable the > > whole community to be involved and not disadvantage any. > > Diwaker wrote: > +1 for IRC. +0 for Skype. Weekends work best for me, I'll go with the > majority. > > > If there is no one against this idea, then we could > > define what we want to achieve and find a suitable > > time slot. WDYT? > > Lets do it! Addi said: > I prefer IRC just because I am more familiar with it > (never used Skype but am willing to try it out), although > I agree about the misinterpretation being higher with > written rather than spoken communication. > I would mainly be listening anyway so whatever works best > for others is fine with me. Thanks. Skype is easy - install it and try. Talk to the nice lady at the account 'echo123' use headphones to avoid feedback into internal mike. Well that is a few interested, but we are not going to do it unless the project is well-represented, with a majority of the people who are interested in the core views/xhtml/sitemaps issues. Remember, the proposal is not about making decisions or doing work. Looking for a suitable time. If it doesn't suit then propose another: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?day=11&month=9&year=2005&p1=136&p2=48&p3=176&p4=240&p5=224&p6=213 1) Saturday, September 10, 2005 at 20:00:00 1) Sunday, September 11, 2005 at 19:00:00 So far the following people are interested. Please state if you have time or date restrictions: Ross Diwaker David - any time, any day, try Skype, IRC okay Addi
