Thorsten Scherler wrote: > David Crossley escribi??: > > Thorsten Scherler wrote: > > > > > > I never have seen university nor commercial studies providing evidence > > > for such a relation. Do you have any proof or concrete examples for this > > > claim? > > > > The ASF and its ways is starting to be discussed > > in such fora, but really we are breaking new ground > > in community building. > > > > It is obvious to me that if we start making a special > > list of who did what, then we will get into hot water. > > Listing certain people and not *every* person who > > made a contribution will cause various troubles. > > Here are some ... > > > > * Inferiority complex. > > > > * Mistaken impression about "leadership". There are > > no leaders in Apache communities. We are essentially > > all equal developers. The committed ones will eventually > > become committers. > > > > * Maintenance nightmare. Who is going to wade through > > our history and list all the deserving contributions. > > Who will keep it up-to-date. > > > > * Impossible to determine who is a "deserving contributor". > > Hmm, that are some of the well known FUD arguments of it. You have not > shown me any proof of such relation but rather used the most common FUD > arguments.
They are not FUD. Thorsten, this is getting silly. > I still do not understand, why other Apache projects are having a > history page and you are not concerned enough about it to bring it up in > those projects (or in the case of cocoon where you are committer, just > revert it/remove it, like you did with my commit). > > Why? Forrest sucks up all my time. I try to keep up-to-date at Cocoon-dev but not time to make any commits, let alone get into discussions like this one. My main aim at Forrest is to help develop a community style that acknowledges every contributor and not just a few people. If i see some documentation or code that goes against that, then i will change it. Not just me, we all need to constantly improve our documentation. Perhaps one day i will have time to help get Cocoon's community development back on the rails too. Their progress with Guidelines documentation has stalled. At the moment Forrest is my focus. -David
