Yes, we should wait for the fury site redirect and a new release under fory.

I think those things can be done this week if everything goes well.

On Sun, Jun 8, 2025 at 8:25 PM PJ Fanning <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> The maturity model looks good. I would suggest that we hold off on
> voting for graduation for a few weeks.
> * let's get the fury site sorted out - redirecting to fory
> * there probably would be no harm getting the 0.11.0 release done with
> the fory name because then we can show the Incubator PMC that we have
> a valid Fory release
>
> On Fri, 6 Jun 2025 at 15:14, Shawn Yang <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi PJ,
> >
> > I created a Maturity Model for apache fory:
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/Fory+Maturity+Model
> >
> > Please leave your comments. If everything goes right, I think we can start
> > the vote for graduation in the next few days.
> >
> > Best,
> > Shawn Yang
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 7:19 PM Shawn Yang <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > There is no need to revert, it's ok to break some build stuff temporarily.
> > > Hope we can minimize this period.
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 6:56 PM PJ Fanning <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I added extra JIRAs and they are linked to
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-26865
> > > >
> > > > I changed the .asf.yaml in the fury-site repo. I thought it was a
> > > > protected branch but it isn't. I can revert the changes if requested
> > > > but in the end, we're going to be temporarily breaking some build
> > > > stuff during the rename anyway.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 29 May 2025 at 11:26, PJ Fanning <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > We will need to get the Infrastructure team to make a number of
> > > > > changes, using JIRA.
> > > > > * rename the LDAP group
> > > > > * rename the DNS for the website
> > > > > * rename the mailing lists
> > > > >
> > > > > We need to change the files in the incubator svn. I can do this bit.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 29 May 2025 at 08:54, Pan Li <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, and perhaps Fury still has many potential users.
> > > > > > I think the original version can be retained for a while temporarily
> > > > > > and then initially switched to a new name.
> > > > > > Meanwhile, record this event on fory-site.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > Pan Li
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 3:40 PM Liangliang Sui <
> > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I suggest that we notify all users in
> > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/fury/issues/1766 after completing the
> > > remaining
> > > > > > > renaming work.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > Liangliang Sui
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 3:24 PM Twice <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It looks like the related java packages moving from
> > > `org.apache.fury` to
> > > > > > > > `org.apache.fory`, right? This could be a big impact of the
> > > quarkus-fury
> > > > > > > > extension and camel-fury component.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yeah it is quite painful for all downstream projects.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The renaming request comes from some ASF management teams and as
> > > PPMC
> > > > > > > > we must resolve it to make sure that this project will graduate
> > > > > > > > smoothly : )
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > Twice
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 3:14 PM Shawn Yang <
> > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It conflicts with movie
> > > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Fury.
> > > > > > > > > We must change it to comply with asf trade mark
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Thursday, May 29, 2025, Zheng Feng 
> > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi Shawn,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > It looks like the related java packages moving from
> > > `org.apache.fury`
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > `org.apache.fory`, right? This could be a big impact of the
> > > > > > > > quarkus-fury
> > > > > > > > > > extension and camel-fury component. I wonder if we also need
> > > to change
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > the new fory name as well. What is the motivation of this
> > > name changes?
> > > > > > > > > > Sorry, I have not followed the discuss about this topic in
> > > the
> > > > > > > > community
> > > > > > > > > > before.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Shawn Yang <[email protected]> 于2025年5月29日周四 14:38写道:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I asked someone in Ant Group to help design a new logo.
> > > > > > > > > > > When the new logo design is finalized, I will create a PR
> > > to replace
> > > > > > > > > > > the current logo.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > Shawn
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 2:18 PM Liangliang Sui <
> > > > > > > > [email protected]
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I have a question here: does the logo image need to be
> > > changed to
> > > > > > > > fory?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Liangliang Sui
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 1:18 PM Shawn Yang <
> > > > > > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I just created a PR to rename fury to fory in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/fury/pull/2263.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > After this gets merged, I will create a PR in
> > > fury-site to
> > > > > > > > finish the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > remaining renaming.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure how to change the repo name from fury to
> > > fory, and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > fury-site to fory-site.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know how to do this?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Shawn
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 1:37 AM Pan Li <
> > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi PJ,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agree with your perspective! Thank you for your
> > > efforts in
> > > > > > > > handling
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the renaming work. I think the examples you provided
> > > are
> > > > > > > > extremely
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > helpful for advancing the project's graduation.
> > > Happy to
> > > > > > > > support in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > any way needed!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pan Li
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 6:22 PM PJ Fanning <
> > > > > > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be great to see the project graduate. It
> > > would make
> > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > easier
> > > > > > > > > > > > > to do releases and you would no longer need IPMC
> > > approval. There
> > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > also
> > > > > > > > > > > > > new podlings and new applications to become podlings
> > > so freeing
> > > > > > > > up
> > > > > > > > > > IPMC
> > > > > > > > > > > > > time would be appreciated.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The one thing that delays graduation is getting
> > > the project
> > > > > > > > > > rename
> > > > > > > > > > > > > done.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *
> > > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Example Maturity Model. We would need a Fury/Fory
> > > one as
> > > > > > > > part of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > setting up the graduation vote.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/GRAVITINO/
> > > > > > > > > > Gravitino+Maturity+Model
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone have any opinions on this?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PJ
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