On Tue, 12 Jul 2005, Davanum Srinivas wrote: > PMC's can maintain separate ACL's for each svn thingy. Get them to > become Apache committers, setup a separate svn area for them to work. > Then VOTE them into regular geronimo project when you think they are > ready (each person on their merit).
Sorry, I must have misunderstood your previous line '+1 to accept new folks from these contrib as "regular" committers' -- I thought by "regular" you meant "completely unrestricted". I am OK with what you state above, though I still prefer the incubator. Aaroon > On 7/12/05, Aaron Mulder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm sorry, I don't agree that donating code should entitle a > > company to nominate committers. Even separating the issue of donating > > code, I don't like adding committers when we don't know them, aren't > > familiar with their work, etc. I think it will be hard to convince me > > otherwise, but I am known to be conservative in this regard. :) > > > > Given the above, I prefer the incubator because we can all get to > > know each other there, the people who know the code can have immediate > > commit on the code (as can interested Geronimo folks), we can start > > working and evaluate the donation before deciding where it belongs > > long-term, etc. It would be slightly more difficult to integrate with > > Geronimo for testing purposes, but we face similar issues with OpenEJB and > > TranQL already. On this, I am willing to be convinced that some kind of > > Geronimo sub-area is best, but I think the incubator is better as a > > general rule. > > > > As for why we need general rules, I don't fancy having this > > extended dialogue every time there's a donation on the table. I used to > > think we wouldn't have that many donations, but after 2 in the last month, > > I'm not so sure. > > > > And, of course, I support David J's statement of mentoring > > principles and so on. > > > > Aaron > > > > On Tue, 12 Jul 2005, Davanum Srinivas wrote: > > > +1 to accept both the console and trifork code. Let Geir worry about > > > paperwork. (Ask for a software grant from both companies such that we > > > can place the code in our SVN.) > > > +1 to accept new folks from these contrib as "regular" committers (we > > > can have a public vote once we get list of people from these 2 > > > companies) > > > > > > Why is this so difficult? > > > > > > -- dims > > > > > > On 7/12/05, Bruce Snyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > After rereading this entire discussion, I'm still not sure that we've > > > > provided the requested guidance to the original reqeust that started > > > > this thread. What's more, given the debate that has taken place, I'm > > > > not sure that there's a consensus in any one direction. So I've got a > > > > couple of questions: > > > > > > > > 1) Is this the same management console that I downloaded from Gluecode > > > > as the Joe evaluation licensed product? > > > > > > > > 2) Will the management console come straight to Geronimo or go through > > > > the Incubator? > > > > > > > > One additional suggestion on the table seemed to surround the > > > > establishment of policies surrounding code donation. I'm not clear on > > > > why some people feel that policies need to be established. Why are > > > > people so hung up on establishing policies for so many things? IMO, > > > > rules for rules sake is just silly. I think we need to test the waters > > > > with some code donations before we go so far as to establish policies > > > > and precedents. Let's please crawl before we walk. > > > > > > > > Bruce > > > > -- > > > > perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)[EMAIL > > > > PROTECTED]&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" > > > > );' > > > > > > > > The Castor Project > > > > http://www.castor.org/ > > > > > > > > Apache Geronimo > > > > http://geronimo.apache.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Davanum Srinivas -http://blogs.cocoondev.org/dims/ > > > > > > > > -- > Davanum Srinivas -http://blogs.cocoondev.org/dims/ >