If you vote for this, no complaining later -- you eat your own dog food.
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NOTE: I apologize in advance for using the words
"incubation", "incubating", "incubated", and finally
"incubator". The word "sandbox" is not a verb and really
hard to use as one, nor could I think of another verb.
Sorry, sorry, sorry. Please, please, please try and focus
on the content in the questions.
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Do ACLs extend to things like:
- websites
- documentation (possibly donated as well)
- QA
- project management
What is the policy on how this affects voting?
- Can a restricted committer -1 a change made by a non-restricted committer
- Does a restricted committer get a binding vote on the code to which they
have access?
- Does a restricted committer have a binding vote to code to which they do not
have access?
- Does a restricted committer have a binding vote on non-technical issues?
New committers:
- Does an existing ASF committer contributing to the incubating code get
restricted commit?
- Does an existing ASF committer contributing to the incubating code and some
to other code get full commit?
- Does an employee of the donor contributing to the incubating code get
restricted commit?
- Does an employee of the donor contributing to the incubating code and some
to other code get full commit?
- Does an unknown community member contributing to the incubating code get
restricted commit?
- Does an unknown community member contributing to the incubating code and
some to other code get full commit?
- Will there be an advantage to *not* contributing to the incubating code as
to avoid getting voted in as a restricted committer.
Releasing:
- Can code being Geronimo incubated be distributed in our unstable builds?
- Can code being Geronimo incubated be distributed in official releases?
- Can code being Geronimo incubated be certified and distributed in a
certified release?
Management and dynamics:
- Can we handle having 2 or 3 more donations in addition to the two we plan?
- Is is possible that the number of active restricted committers outnumbers
the active fully privileged committers?
- How much time are you willing to dedicate in a week to managing issues,
documenting guidelines and general Apache Way mentoring?
- Will we be open to assistance from experienced ASF people willing to assist
in managing issues, documenting guidelines and general Apache Way mentoring?
- Would they get a binding vote?
- Would they get and be welcome to use commit privileges?
PMC:
- Can a restricted committer join the Geronimo PMC?
- Can a person under a documentation ACL join the PMC?
- Can a person under a management ACL join the PMC?
Moving Up:
- What is the criteria for leaving the Geronimo incubator?
- Is it acceptable to take half or less of the code?
- How is this consensus reached, public vote or private vote?
- How do restricted committers become full committers?
- If a donation moves to full status, are the restrictions of all committers
working on that code removed?
- Are these people free to vote on matters of other donated code?
Moving Out:
- Is it possible to remove a project from incubation and not accept it as a
part of Geronimo?
- How long will donors have to wait to get this answer?
- On what basis will the PMC vote on removing a project?
- Is that a public or private vote?
- Is it possible to remove all commit access for a restricted committer.
- On what basis will the PMC vote on removing all commit access?
- Is that a public or private vote?
Potential fairness issues:
- Donor X gets in the incubator in March, donor Y gets in the incubator two
months later. Sometime later, the PMC votes to graduate donor Y's code. Do we
graduate X as well? If not, do we owe X and explanation of why they aren't
being graduated?
- Adam and Jack are restricted committers from donor ABC. Jack is voted in as
a full committer. Do we vote in Adam as well? If not, do we owe Adam an
explanation of why?
- Bill and Ben are restricted committers from donor QRS. Bill and Ben are
having a hard time getting really involved. Eric is an Apache committer from
another project who started working with the donated code and was made a
restricted committer. The PMC decides to vote Eric in as a full Geronimo
committer. Do we make Bill and Ben full committers as well? If no, how do we
handle Bill and Ben's expectations?
