On Aug 2, 2005, at 8:50 AM, Donald Woods wrote:
+1 on hosting the Eclipse tooling for Geronimo, but
wouldn't it be more useful for everyone if its
integrated into the main trunk, so it can be built and
shipped with a given server level for runtime
application deployment and debugging?
The place in the source tree isn't as important as making sure that
we have it. I'm sure that if we have it here, we'll certainly ensure
that it's part of our distributions - we have a strong interest in
ensuring that Geronimo has the best tooling we can provide.
(And maybe it will inspire IDEA-based tooling as well so I can use it :)
geir
-Donald
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Does anyone else have any comments or objections
before we go down
this path?
geir
On Aug 1, 2005, at 5:29 PM, Sachin Patel wrote:
Great. I assuming no one else has any strong
objections. If not,
I'll be glad to start driving this. I'm not sure
about the
licensing issues... I'll shoot of a note to the
eclipse folks.
Thanks.
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
I think it would be great to have it here.
Question - we would need to have it re-licensed
under the Apache
License v2.0. Is that possible?
geir
On Jul 29, 2005, at 9:28 PM, Sachin Patel wrote:
Hello all,
It seems as if a decision needs to be made to
determine the
appropiate place to host the Eclipse tooling
support for
Geronimo, in particular the Geronimo Server
Adapter that is
currently in development in the Eclipse - WTP
project.
http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/os-gerplug/
As I've made enhancements to this Geronimo
tooling support, I've
been forced to pull in Geronimo runtime
dependencies, for access
not only to the Geronimo runtime itself but to
JEE spec jars.
Discussions have arose as I've been working with
the Eclipse WTP
team to push these changes in. It is their
belief that if this
server adapter is pulling in third party jars
then it falls
under the category of being a full-fledged
adapter that is too
large to host and be a part of WTP. The
existing adapters for
the other application servers that are included
in WTP are
lightweight and serve primarily as examples for
basic support.
There has been some discussion planning to
provide the JMX jars
and a set of utilties as part of WTP that other
server adapters
can exploit. However this is not expected
until WTP 1.5 in June
06 at the earliest. This is not good for the
Geronimo
community. We need an immediate place to host
this source so
the community can have the latest source to
start using, opening
bugs and feature requests, and contributing to
it. As everyone
works hard toward the completion of the
Geronimo's first release
it would be great if we had a good start for
tooling support to
go along with 1.0.
So the first decision we need to come to is
where should this be
hosted? The first option is creating a
sourceforge project and
build a secondary community around it. The
other, is to host on
Apache itself as part of the Geronimo project.
The latter I
feel is a much better option as by simply
including it as part
of the Geronimo project itself, it provides a
much stronger
integration statement to the existing
community. So the Apache
Geronimo project would include not only the
development of
server itself but also the tooling that goes
along with it.
So the proposal is that we create a seperate
branch for tooling
in subversion and host the source there. The
next step would be
to provide the build and packaging
infrastructure to go around
it and to be able to pull down dependencies to
build which
include Eclipse, WTP, and of course the
Geronimo runtime itself.
Thoughts, objections, comments???
Thank you,
Sachin.
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