On Oct 2, 2005, at 2:24 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:

Sorry, I thought you had figured out the installer issue.  We should
certainly be able to build it from the same files as we distribute
normally.  Where does it stand now?  I can tweak it if you've run out
of energy for it.

The installer also has a scripted/automated install process, which
should address unpacking/running to get something to test.

I think there are a couple of issues:
1. It is a really lot of work to run the tck, and I'm not up for doing it again for a while. I would prefer to find a way to claim that the geronimo installer is covered by the tests run on the zip distro. I would be quite happy claiming this if the installer was built by unpacking the zip into the installer directory rather than copying all/most of the files. It's probably fine if we build the installer using the same assembly directory, but I'd like some other opinions on this.

2. Related to the above, we should build the installer on the same assembly module copy as the zip. That's one of David Blevin's machines, so he should do it.


Also, if we can distribute our own Axis, I'm sure we can distribute
our own IzPack.  But really, I don't think there's a compelling need
to, since no one needs IzPack to install or run the product.  (Also,
you say you couldn't get a copy for yourself, but that's only because
the download was troublesome for you, right?  If I had a nickel for
every time ibiblio crapped out... :)

Ibiblio sometimes has problems, but it is a well known well advertised site with automated downloads and usually works fine. Stuff available from it has at least theoretically been officially released by its authors. The current version of izpack is on a secret site that you need a password for and that in my experience has not yet worked. It has not been officially released and I have no idea how it was built. I'm not sure how much of an issue I have with this for M5 but I really don't want to continue this state of affairs through the next release. I think izpack has to be run from maven.

Anyone else have an opinion?

thanks
david jencks

Aaron

On 10/2/05, David Jencks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:00 AM, Aaron Mulder wrote:

Cool.  Can you publish a candidate installer, too?

well, I'm not sure. I see two potential problems, aside from being too
tired right now to put it together :-)

1. We aren't set up to certify it, how would we make it clear that the
installer version wasn't certified?  Or is it certified???  I'd prefer
to find a way to certify the installer based version. I think it would
be easy to build the installer using maven, but I'm not sure about
unpacking/running it to get something to test.  If we found a way to
make the installer include the certified zip distribution and just
unpack it and change the config.* files I don't think this would be an
issue.  Maybe it's ok to claim the installer is certified if it is
built from the same assembly as the zip.  I'm just not sure.

2. It's built with unreleased software that I at least couldn't get for
myself. I suppose that we could include a copy of the installer kit
version we use, as we have included a copy of axis.

Anyway I hope we can figure out a way to answer these questions so we
can put out a installer version.

thanks
david jencks


Thanks,
    Aaron

On 10/2/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
(just making it clear for others)

+1 from me

Thanks everyone for the incredible work to make this happen.

geir

On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:15 AM, David Jencks wrote:

The 1.0-M5  branch passed all the tck tests, so David Blevins and I
have tagged geronimo and openejb and built a candidate 1.0-M5 zip.
We are running the tck on this.

The zip is available for testing at

http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-1.0-M5.zip

We'd like to call for a vote on a release based on this tag
conditional on the tck passing (again).  I think the process would
be that after the vote we would work on publishing the jars, this
zip distribution, and a source distribution.

Many thanks,
david jencks



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