David Jencks wrote:

>> I'm not sure I agree that this is easiest or best.  I think I would be
>> interested in getting others' input on this as well.  One of the
>> problems we have now is the chicken/egg issue with the plugin being in
>> the build itself.  I think this would be alleviated by moving the plugin
>> to its own project and push it out as a reliable dependency for the
>> geronimo project.  I have tried the internal plugin thing on a few
>> projects, and it always ended up making life easier having the plugin as
>> its own project.
> 
> Aren't all these problems due to maven not handling this rather obvious
> and important use case of building a plugin and then using it in the
> same build?  If a tool is broken you have to do something to fix it....
> but often fixing the tool works best.

Have you opened a JIRA over on the maven side of the house?

> 
> thanks
> david jencks
>>
>>> --jason

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