On 10/4/06, Matt Hogstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The net result from my conversations was: Java 1.5 JEE 5.0 soon Simpler to use More activity on the website; it doesn't change enough.
All what Matt wrote about the conference and our presentations about Apache Geronimo is true so I won't repeat it. What I wanted to stress is our visibility (aka PR). I had a couple of discussions with attendees about what they'd change to bring more attention to Apache Geronimo and they all mentioned about documentation and website updates. They need more not only about Geronimo itself, but some pages about how different technologies apply to Geronimo. As an example let's take GBeans, POJOs, Geronimo Kernel, XBean and Spring. They seem to be so similar that people who attended Geronimo session and OSGi one afterwards kept asking how it's different and why we're implementing something that we could re-use. Even though I could explain the existence of XBean and its way to simplify Spring configuration it wasn't easy to explain Geronimo Kernel with GBeans and OSGi. It seemed so similar to me that I keep scratching my head around it yet. I enjoy the conference and the ability to hear people's views on different aspects of Apache Geronimo development and open source projects in general. People seemed to be very interested in Geronimo. I can't explain what it was exactly (as they couldn't explain it to me and I didn't push too much), but I could feel they appreciated our efforts and collaboration. What I was really surprised with was to *not* hear much about JEE features. Well, people mentioned it, but that's it. It turns out that POJOs changed the expectations and as far as one can write a POJO and annotate/configure it somehow and it will (automagically) work they'll be happy. Of course, JEE-compliancy is important, but more documentation and website updates are yet more important. There were some comments about Geronimo's error message reporting that's not very helpful and fixing problems with applications using Apache Geronimo was not as easy as it should be. Aha, people expect v1.2 soon regardless of what it's going to provide. Just that it's available seems to be very important to many people and although features are highly appreciated, the better we polish what we've *already* got the merrier. Jacek -- Jacek Laskowski http://www.laskowski.net.pl
