On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din<nour.moham...@gmail.com> wrote: > I support either solution 1 or 2 from first section of solutions: > > 1- We will not be waiting for others till they decide whether donate > the code or not.
RH donation will not happen - we could fork, the license is just fine for it. But yeah, why forking a RI ? :-) I like the incubator style a little bit better than the commons sandbox. > > 2- We will get more benefit for ASF as we may gain more committer to > join the community and help grow it more. > > 3- For the non-committers contribution to the code, I think it is not > a problem as it is the normal case for ASF projects, these > contributions make us gain more committers in the future and hence > more support for ASF. > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Donald Woods<dwo...@apache.org> wrote: >> Everyone, I think it is time again to reopen the discussions around creating >> a Validator2 release [1], which implements the upcoming JSR-303 Bean >> Validation spec [2] and [3]. Since JSR-303 is now a required component of >> Java EE 6 application servers and must be supported by JSR-314 JSF2 and >> JSR-317 JPA2, there is growing interest in the Apache Geronimo, Apache >> OpenJPA, Apache MyFaces and Apache OpenEJB projects to grow and maintain a >> JSR-303 implementation at Apache. >> >> First, to meet this goal, I would like us to consider the following options: >> >> I. - Commons Sandbox >> Utilize the existing validator2 sandbox area [4] to collaborate on a JSR-303 >> implementation which would eventually become commons-validator-2.0. >> Pros: Existing Apache committers can be given access to the sandbox and >> work with the Commons community to become committers. >> Cons: Non-committers must provide patches and build karma, even before the >> project is moved out of the sandbox (we have interest from two companies to >> help, but most of their potential contributors are not Apache committers.) >> >> II. - Apache Incubator >> Submit an incubator proposal to create a JSR-303 focused project, which >> would be sponsored by the Commons PMC and/or Geronimo PMC with the goal >> being that the candidate proposal would become a sub-project of Commons as >> the new Validator R2 code base. >> Pros: Allows us to seed the initial project with non-committers and >> demonstrate there is broad support for this project. >> Cons: Additional incubator proposal and graduation overhead, along with not >> working closely with the whole Commons community on developing the new code >> base. >> >> >> Secondly, we have two existing JSR-303 implementations that we could >> possibly use to help bootstrap this effort: >> >> I. - Agimatec-Validation project on Google Code >> Code uses ASL 2.0 and I have approached one of the Agimatec GmbH employees >> about possibly donating the existing code to Apache. >> >> II. - JSR-303 RI >> Code being developed by Red Hat as the RI using ASL 2.0. Kevin Sutter from >> the OpenJPA team has approached Emmanuel at Red Hat on this subject, but it >> is doubtful we would see a code donation, but could pull it in as >> third-party code to get started. >> >> >> Please let me know your thoughts, as we would like to get this bootstrapped >> this month, as the Geronimo community is starting to put together our plans >> for a Geronimo 3.0 release in 2010 for a Java EE 6 application server. >> >> >> -Donald Woods >> Apache Geronimo Committer and PMC member >> Apache OpenJPA Committer and PMC member >> dwoods.AT.apache.org >> >> >> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VALIDATOR-279 >> >> [2] http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=303 >> >> [3] http://people.redhat.com/~ebernard/validation/ >> >> [4] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/sandbox/validator2/trunk >> >> > > > > -- > Thanks > - Mohammad Nour > - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour > ---- > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving" > - Albert Einstein > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > > -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
