Yes, there are various testsuite options, including os (windows, unix, mac) and 32 v 64 bit. Perhaps ideally it would run on all of them. There are platform differences on the mac. A big one is Eclipse->preferences on mac vs. window->preferences on windows. This affects the testsuite test cases. The testsuite was developed on windows 32. I would say initially running the testsuite on windows 32 is a good start, and probably sufficient, certainly until it works on mac. I am not familiar with SWTBOT. I did some investigation with some knowledgeable folks, and Abbot still seems a reasonable choice. However, I think we are using an older level of Abbot. I think we should upgrade to the latest Abbot levels, which are early 2009, but this is also a future item, I think. If SWTBOT is better or folks want to use it, that seems fine with me. We do have an investment in Abbot for the existing testsuite. See https://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDEV/geronimo-eclipse-plugin-gep-testsuite.html for testuite info.
Ted Kirby On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Delos <dait...@gmail.com> wrote: > As for testsuite, it's not required before so I agree it's necessary for a > new GEP release. But it's difficult to assure the testsuite is runnable all > the time, because Abbot always have some unknown issues when it's running on > various OS. If possible, maybe we can consider to leverage other library > such as SWTBOT. > > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 8:19 PM, Ted Kirby <ted.ki...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I have recently returned to community activity after a period of >> inactivity. I have played with some of the introductory material, and >> things have not gone that well. :-( I think G and GEP 3.0 have very >> exciting content: JEE 6 and OSGi, and we are on track to be "early to >> market" with our certified server. I think we want to attract new >> users, and we want to be ready and attractive and easy to use when >> they come. To that end, I offer these suggestions and feedback: >> >> 1. Geronimo v3.0, or at least v3.0-M1, should be listed on the main >> page Documentation link http://geronimo.apache.org/documentation.html. >> v3.0 is on the wiki page: https://cwiki.apache.org/geronimo/ >> >> 2. I think we should have a "Getting Started" or "Quick Start" link on >> the home page for folks to download and start running Geronimo >> quickly. This page in the doc seems good: >> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC30/quick-start-apache-geronimo-for-the-impatient.html. >> (This page comes up first on the documentation, so maybe item 3 would >> address this.) >> >> 3. I don't think a version should be released unless the "Quick Start" >> actually works. If this is the entry point for new users, it should >> work for each release. For 3.0-M1, there are two JIRAs on this: >> GERONIMO-5488 and GERONIMO-5658. >> >> 4. Ditto for GEP. http://geronimo.apache.org/development-tools.html >> is pretty good, but there is no mention of 3.0-M1. 3.0 is an exciting >> release for JEE 6 and OSGi. Folks want to play with the technology. >> We should help them get started. >> >> 5. The "1-minute Hello World Web Application Tutorial" >> >> http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC22/how-to-use-geronimo-eclipse-plugin.html#HowtoUseGeronimoEclipsePlugin-DeployRunUndeployandRedeployanApplication >> for GEP does not work for 3.0-M1. There is a deploy problem, and a >> missing message problem. I think both the 1-minute and 5-minute >> tutorial are part of the testsuite, and hence these errors should have >> been caught if the testsuite were run. I recommend adding these >> tutorials to the testsuite if they are not there. Again, before a GEP >> version is released, someone should verify these tutorials work. >> >> 6. No GEP version should be released unless the testsuite passes. >> >> 7. News items on the main page http://geronimo.apache.org/ should have >> dates. Currently, 1 of 5 does. When was 3.0-M1 released? It takes >> two clicks to find out. I think dates on the download page >> http://geronimo.apache.org/downloads.html (the first click) would be >> nice. >> >> 8. There are no news items for the two recent GEP releases: 2.1.6 and >> 3.0-M1. I think all G and GEP releases should have news items, >> including dates. >> >> I think these suggestions will improve our product. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Ted Kirby > > > > -- > Best Regards, > > Delos >
