I think Geronimo worth a chance to be updated. There are not that much OSGi enable application servers out there, and this one is pretty stable. I think the first steps toward a new version would include a rethink of its architecture, considering how the projects used by Geronimo are evolving right now (Karaf, Aries, Commons, etc.) and current market trends, including new interesting features (cloud enabled micro-version of Geronimo perhaps, OSGi annotations, small footprint, etc). One of the things people are concern in open source is short live of projects. Geronimo has been there for a while, so there is another good reason to keep pumping this project.
It would be appreciated any docs helping the process of updating Geronimo, besides at this point, it could be needed a "from zero" start due long time without an official release, in order to start a proof of concept. On 12/27/2016 04:17 PM, Kevan Miller wrote: > Thanks Eduardo! > > If there are people interested in working on updating the Geronimo > server, I'm sure the community would happily support these efforts. > So, if you or anyone else are interested, please speak up! > > Also, if there are people interested in supporting the currently > released version(s) of the Geronimo, server, I think the community > would be supportive of these efforts, also. > > Unfortunately, there has not been much interest from the current > community for either of these efforts. I confess that I'm not planning > on providing support for the existing codebase or working on a new > version of the Geronimo server. > > Mark, > Your plan seems reasonable to me. Unless we plan on supporting the > current version of the server (fixing bugs and security exposures) > and/or developing a new updated server, I think we must move the > server subproject to the Attic. > > I do not plan on participating in the community for either commons or > server development. Once the future plans for the Geronimo Server have > been finalized, I will plan on resigning from the PMC. > > kevan > > On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 7:21 AM, Eduardo Garcia > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > It would be desirable to have an official new version, with full > compatibility with new Java JDK's (this helps promoting people on > using > it), also updating official web page, and Eclipse Plugin. > > I had to put the front-end of a project into a TomEE due > web-responsive > JSF requirements, but still using Geronimo as the core (back-end), by > using microservices (Restlet/Jackson). Geronimo really rocks, but I > think it is time to get a renew version compatible with new key > libraries. > > I really like Geronimo AppServer and hope it continue growing. In my > case, I started using geronimo because it was really easy for me > learning it with the Eclipse Tools available at that time (IBM OSGi > Tools). Right now I have to use WAS or Liberty Tools with Eclipse > Luna. > > My wish list for Geronimo: > - Updated OSGi framework > - Been able to install Camel > - Updated MyFaces compatibility and fix some non-critical bugs > - Compatibility with new JDK > - Updated Eclipse Plugin > - Try to deliver a new release once a year > > hope next year could join you guys in making some of this happen. > > > > On 12/16/2016 12:54 PM, Mark Struberg wrote: > > Parts which I found to be actively maintained and very useful > > > > * specs > > * xbean > > * javamail > > * transactionmanager > > * flava (needed for specs) > > > > I'm sure there are others which are not on my radar,... > > > > LieGrue, > > strub > > > >> Am 15.12.2016 um 21:41 schrieb David Jencks > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>: > >> > >> I agree. Which components specifically are you thinking of? > >> > >> david jencks > >> > >>> On Dec 15, 2016, at 1:57 AM, Mark Struberg <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi folks! > >>> > >>> There have been some thoughts about resurrecting activity on > the Geronimo AppServer. > >>> So imo the first step is to find a spot which makes sense. > Software doesn't get built just for fun. > >>> Of course if no fun is involved then a project is doomed as well. > >>> But otoh if it doesn't get used then the quality suffers a lot > and the fun is gone as well. > >>> > >>> So we have a few Java App Servers (just at the ASF), sorted > from fastest/smallest to full EE > >>> > >>> * Mina as Socket Server > >>> * Tomcat as native Servlet Container > >>> * Brand new: OpenWebBeans Meecrowave as Microprofile server > (Tomcat9+OWB+Johnzon+CXF+log4j2). In a whooping 9MB all in one CLI > fatjar btw ;) > >>> * TomEE WebProfile (EE6 and EE7) > >>> * TomEE Full (EE6 and EE7) > >>> * Geronimo (EE6, OSGi) > >>> > >>> + httpd of course (but not Java) > >>> > >>> To be honest I've not seen the Geronimo AppServer in > production since quite a few years. Otoh the components maintained > over here are of great quality and also an important puzzle part > of many other projects. In my eyes Geronio could re-focus on > becomming kind of EE-comons of the ASF. > >>> > >>> What do others think? > >>> > >>> LieGrue, > >>> strub > >>> > >>> > > > >
