On 15/08/2012, at 6:50 PM, Kris De Volder <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sure, I could still watch issues etc. the point is that in order to be > able to 'raise' something and track progress of my 'pre-issue' upto the > point it gets promoted to an 'issue' I have to now use a different tool. > > I don't really see that as a simplification but as a complication. > (Two tools is more complex than one tool). > > I do understand the idea to try and keep 'garbage' separate from 'issues'. > I just don't see why that can't be done within the Jira tracker. > Jira is not perfect, but it does provide many ways to manage and distinguish > issues. > So what problem is making me go to the forum going to solve that > you couldn't also solve by using some kind of tagging scheme in Jira? Because the vast majority of users use the forum for support. More people jave forum accounts than JIRA accounts. Also, When something goes wrong users usually aren't in a good position to ascertain whether it's misuse or a defect. If the forum is *the* place to go then they don't have to think about it. The forum is *the* user channel. That's our strategy. > > Anyway, its really not up to me. If you guys think doing a filtering > at the forum level is the way to go, that's entirely up to you. I'll try to > follow > the process that you guys think is best for you. > > If it means I have to post my issues to the forum going forward that is fine. > I think I can live with that :-) The kind of issues you post aren't the same as what regular users of Gradle post. I don't see any benefit of putting these kinds of issues through the forum. > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- >> Not advocating either way, but none of your arguments really hit on >> the >> intent of the proposal. >> >> You would still have access to Jira, if I am understanding Luke >> correctly. The thing the Gradle team is trying to get out of is the >> creation of garbage basically. Duplicate issues, non-issues, etc. >> As >> I understand it, they want to be able to screen potential problems >> *before* they get into Jira. So you'd still have access to Jira, >> just >> not to create issues directly. You would still watch/vote/etc in >> Jira >> directly. >> >> >> On Wed 15 Aug 2012 11:24:12 AM CDT, Kris De Volder wrote: >>> I'm not a big fan of forums myself. For reporting problems and >>> tracking the status/progress I really think Jira issues is much >>> better. >>> >>> Sure Jira is not perfect, but it lets you tag things as >>> 'duplicate', 'user error', etc. And they allow you to see what >>> release it is targetted for, if someone is assigned to it, if it >>> has been resolved etc. >>> >>> A forum is just a collection of threads with none of these >>> features. I just don't see myself 'filing' issues by going to the >>> forum. >>> >>> BTW: I have not yet signed on to the forum. I already have enough >>> different places to go to to check for new stuff on a regular >>> basis. And like I said, to me the Jira tracker seems like a better >>> place to keep an eye on the issues that affect me. >>> >>> Kris >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> If you're interested in this, please read: >>>> http://forums.gradle.org/gradle/topics/8xl1i3rqvg7yz >>>> >>>> Feel free to comment here if you are adverse to posting on the >>>> forums. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Luke Daley >>>> Principal Engineer, Gradleware >>>> http://gradleware.com >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: >>>> >>>> http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: >>> >>> http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email >>> >>> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: > > http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email
