Hi Jay,

On Dec 18, 2012, at 11:03 AM, Jay Berkenbilt <[email protected]> wrote:

> I thought I'd send a quick note to introduce myself to the list and let
> you know about some messages I will be sending hopefully over the next
> couple of weeks.  I am the author of a build system called abuild
> (www.abuild.org), which is similar to gradle in the spirit of what it
> tries to achieve but is primarily a C/C++ build tool and has no
> following outside of people that work for one of my previous employers. 
> I had the pleasure of meeting Hans Dockter and Luke Daley a few weeks
> ago and having a phone conversation with Adam Murdoch and Luke shortly
> after that to discuss C and C++ builds and to share ideas.  I am no
> longer doing any development on abuild, and I would love it if I could
> put a note on abuild's website that says, "If you're thinking about
> using abuild, use gradle instead.  It does everything abuild does and
> much more."  Right now, this is not quite the case.  I've told people
> that for everything abuild does that gradle doesn't, there are about 100
> things that gradle does and abuild doesn't, but there are still a few
> things in that first category that have to be taken care of!
> 
> I'm at a place in my life where I have extremely little free time to
> contribute to gradle (I have almost-two-year-old twins at home), but I
> want the deep thinking and experience that went into abuild to benefit
> gradle as much as possible.  I think the best way for me to contribute
> is to post detailed ideas to this list including outlines of specific
> test cases or scenarios that a good C/C++ build system should be able to
> handle.  I plan on putting some focused effort into this from 12/27 to
> 12/29 when I've scheduled some time off to work on this and some other
> open source efforts.
> 
> At this moment, I don't have deep familiarity with gradle, but I'm
> hoping that will change.  That means, for now, my contributions will
> probably be limited to prose, but maybe down the road, it can evolve
> into contributions of code or test cases.  Abuild has a very thorough
> automated test suite.  I think it would be great if gradle could pass
> all of abuild's tests that make sense in gradle.  Abuild's test suite is
> implemented in qtest (qtest.qbilt.org), which is perl-based, so the test
> cases would have to be rewritten, but that's just as well since the
> whole framework is so different.
> 
> For now, unless anyone would like to suggest a better way, I'll most
> likely go with posting a single message per topic and putting the string
> C++ concept in the subject.  I have one item to post this morning
> (hooray for insomnia) but probably won't have time for much more until
> next week.  I look forward to getting more involved and hope these posts
> will be useful.

I'm very much looking forward to your postings.

Hans

> 
> --Jay
> 
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> Jay Berkenbilt <[email protected]>
> 
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