> On May 22, 2016, at 11:20 AM, Guillaume Laforge <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> And... it's back now!

YAY!!!!!

> 
> Sorry again for the inconvenience, but this was really beyond our control 
> unfortunately.
> 
> Regarding your points, Steve:
> 
> 1) If a company is stupid to "abandon" a great language like Groovy, too bad 
> for them ;-)

Yes -- absolutely!  It was a dumb idea -- I understand their business reasons I 
think, but still.... [again, I was speaking of *perceptions* of people outside 
-- FUD]
And yes, Groovy is a GREAT language!  I wish I had started learning it earlier, 
would have bypassed Scala altogether!  It's so easy to code in, GDK has 
tasteful augmentations to the JDK...I'm glad I'm on board now!

> 
> 2) Well, we can't control perception obviously, and I didn't envision a 
> simple DNS domain name transfer would fail so bad. Normally, this kind of 
> process should really be smooth. So it's really really unfortunate that the 
> ASF infra couldn't handle that appropriately and timely. To their defense, 
> it's mostly a team of non-paid volunteers, relying on services granted for 
> free by third-parties, and in this instance, it was really not a smooth and 
> reliable process.

Right -- I understand volunteer software efforts -- been there, done that.   I 
thought ASF had a "foundation" that was funding some of their costs (just a 
presumption on my part).

> 
> 3) We're at the wheel, don't worry, even if not full time like we used to.
> Reverting the process wasn't possible, as once you've made the move to 
> transfer a domain name, you can't take it back, so I couldn't have been able 
> to reclaim it. And since the Apache foundation mandates that such domain 
> names be in their control, we would have had to go through that process 
> anyway. So reverting to try again later would have run the risk of two such 
> downtimes, which would be even worse.

Oh -- I know you're in control of the situation.  It's great that Apache was 
able to provide a home for Groovy, and that Groovy adoption has accelerated 
since the move!

Thanks again for the explanation, and I'm beyond happy that groovy-lang.org 
<http://groovy-lang.org/> is back among the living!!!
Steve

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