Thanks Rémi.

Devs,

I'll merge our change in this area (just the ASM_API_VERSION) from Groovy 3
into the GROOVY_2_5_X branch unless there are any objections.

Cheers, Paul.


On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 4:06 PM <fo...@univ-mlv.fr> wrote:

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>
> ------------------------------
>
> *De: *"paulk" <pa...@asert.com.au>
> *À: *"Remi Forax" <fo...@univ-mlv.fr>
> *Cc: *"dev" <dev@groovy.apache.org>
> *Envoyé: *Lundi 3 Septembre 2018 00:26:27
> *Objet: *Re: Support of Java 11 using ASM 6.2.1 and ASM 7
>
> Hi,
> Groovy 3.x snapshots use ASM7_EXPERIMENTAL. For Groovy 2.5.x, the current
> plan (subject to change) is that we were planning on waiting for the ASM 7
> release and doing a new release after that.
>
>
> in that case, perhaps Groovy 2.5.x should reject classfiles V11 and V12
> with an error message instead of having ASM throwing an
> UnsupportedOperationException later, at least until ASM 7 is integrated
>
>
> But, I must admit that I haven't really had a chance to look at the full
> implications of using ASM7_EXPERIMENTAL. If we added that already in 2.5.x
> but don't use any of the new features, is there any backward compatibility
> issues when we then switched to ASM7?
>
>
> Currently no, just replacing ASM7_EXPERIMENTAL by ASM7 is enough and given
> that Java 11 is already in release candidate phase, we do not expect any
> compatibility issues.
> Also, there is no bytecode changes planned for 12 so the latest release of
> ASM 6 (6.2.1) also allows Java 12 bytecode.
>
>
> Cheers, Paul.
>
>
> regards,
> Rémi
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 2:06 AM Remi Forax <fo...@univ-mlv.fr> wrote:
>
>> Forget to ling to the related bug:
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GROOVY-8727
>>
>> cheers,
>> Rémi
>>
>> ----- Mail original -----
>> > De: "Remi Forax" <fo...@univ-mlv.fr>
>> > À: "dev" <dev@groovy.apache.org>
>> > Envoyé: Dimanche 2 Septembre 2018 18:04:12
>> > Objet: Support of Java 11 using ASM 6.2.1 and ASM 7
>>
>> > Hi all,
>> > Java 11 introduces several new forward incompatible features* in the
>> class file.
>> >
>> > Currently javac only uses one of them, nestmates [1], which allows to
>> declare
>> > that several classes are part of the same nest thus allow access to
>> private
>> > members in between them, obviously changing the semantics of the
>> private access
>> > for invokevirtual (see [2] if you want more info) if not forward
>> compatible.
>> >
>> > Even if NestMates are declared as class attributes, we have decided in
>> ASM to
>> > not ignore them if there are present in the bytecode (a class compiled
>> with
>> > javac 11) because this change for the VM is far from innocuous, if you
>> scrap
>> > those attributes, you get IllegalAccessError laters, so if you use a
>> > ClassVisitor configured with the ASM6 API and ASM see a nestmate related
>> > attributes (NestHost or NestMembers) it will fail with an
>> > UnsuportedOperationException.
>> >
>> > Moreover, even if the support of Java 11 will came with ASM7, we have
>> decided to
>> > introduce a new experimental API version (currently ASM7_EXPERIMENTAL)
>> which
>> > let you parse Java 11 using ASM6 (6.2+), so if you want your favorite
>> language
>> > to support Java 11, all visitors need to be upgraded to the api version
>> > ASM7_EXPERIMENTAL.
>> > You can also decide as before to wait until we release ASM7 (the first
>> week end
>> > after the release of Java as usual, so at the end of September) to use
>> the ASM7
>> > api.
>> >
>> > regards,
>> > Rémi
>> >
>> > * see also Constant Dynamic (http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/309) and
>> Preview
>> > Feature (http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/12)
>> >
>> > [1] http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/181
>> > [2]
>> https://youtu.be/-k_IicifbxQ?list=PLX8CzqL3ArzVnxC6PYxMlngEMv3W1pIkn
>>
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