My input would be:
1. I like the name "GINQ" = "Groovy Integrated Query", compared to
"LINQ" = "Language Integrated Query", since LINQ has become
synonymous with C#/.NET, and GINQ gives it fitting Groovy spin G-)
2. My association with Ginq would be a Ginkgo tree
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ginkgo_biloba) :-)
1. I assume with slur you probably mean "chink"
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chink) ? I would not associate
"ginq" with that, but in the end there will always be a small
number of people who will construct something to be offended by
out of anything, and a small number of racist idiots, who will
either just use "chink" directly, or find some "not-yet-banned"
or "not-bannable-since-common-term"* way to insult someone. I
think one should not let one's decisions be influenced by either
of them :-)
3. Having said that, there is already a PHP library called "Ginq":
https://github.com/akanehara/ginq
4. The question whether LINQ is indeed protected as a term by MS is
imho also a valid one...
5. The case of "gcontracts" vs "ginq" is not as clear cut as it seems,
since
1. "inq" on its own does imho not really work
2. "ginq" forms a memorable word of its own for me, whereas
"gcontracts" just prepends a "g" in front of the word "contracts"
6. "groovy-query" would work, but to me it is quite generic/bland, and
I would associate it with SQL queries only (.NET LINQ at least is
not specific to SQL, and in fact you need to do a lot of
transforming to get back to SQL from a LINQ AST expression, even
though the input source might have looked a lot like SQL ;-) ).
7. "groovy-q" might be a possible alternative(if we allow one-letter
module names), since "Q" is of course a well known, powerful figure
from the Star Trek universe
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_(Star_Trek)), hinting at the
cleverness & power of the language :-)
Cheers,
mg
*See again "USA" = "United States of America", but also "Unser seliger
Adolf" ("our holy Adolf"), used by German/Austrian Nazis to refer to
their Führer.
On 27/09/2021 17:42, Milles, Eric (TR Technology) wrote:
Is there still time to reconsider the name of the new integrated query
module (groovy-ginq) before Groovy 4 is released and the choice is
locked in? I ask for a couple of reasons:
1) the "g" is redundant; groovy-ginq implies "groovy
groovy integrated query". When gcontracts was moved under apache, it
was changed to "groovy-contracts", not "groovy-gcontracts".
2) ginq is very close to an ethnic slur in american
english.
I do realize that it was originally groovy-linq. I asked at that time
if that was a registered trademark of Microsoft. I did not hear
whether or not it was, just suddenly it was groovy-ginq without any
further discussion.
So I propose groovy-ginq be renamed to one of the following:
groovy-query
groovy-linq
groovy-inq
Or my proposal to incorporate it into the groovy-sql module could be
reconsidered.
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