26.11.06, Geir Magnusson Jr.<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> написал(а):


Alexey Varlamov wrote:
> 24.11.06, Geir Magnusson Jr.<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> написал(а):
>>
>>
>> Alexey Varlamov wrote:
>> > Geir,
>> > This was a bit emotional maybe... Sure, any way it will be is not
>> > lethal, and I do not mind it too much.
>>
>> What, the veto?  I didn't take it that way :)  My point was that when
>> someone puts up a "-1", it really gets people's attention as a strong
>> position.
>>
>> > My point is if you modify "official" x-list you most certainly won't
>> > lose it off track, while local svn-ignored file have a good chance to
>> > hang around for a while. OTOH, is there any difference which file to
>> > edit? I suppose no, hence this is almost useless in my POV.
>>
>> I agree you won't lose it, but when it's in a file that isn't meant for
>> purely personal use then you have problems in being sure not to commit
>> it, having to deal with merge conflicts, etc.
>>
>> I think about it in the same spirit of the drlvm.properties.example -
>> people copy to an un-svn-ed local copy for local config.  Excluding
>> tests while you are working on something is that kind of thing.

> Nope - drlvm.properties fixes stable state of things, you set it and
> forget it; most merging conflicts are just bothering fuss.

No - there is no merging conflict for drlvm.properties, as it's not in
SVN.  And you can do wacky things with drlvm.properties - like point to
a modified classlib.

> Excluding tests should be momentary and ideally not happening at all,
> so some minor inconveniences may be paying here. And even merging
> conflict should justly draw your attention - maybe your modification
> is not that local.

I think that we can't legislate this - if people need them, they'll use
it or find a way around it, like explicitly excluding tests, and if they
don't, they won't.

IOW, it's a convenience for those that need it.

>
>>
>> > If you really want it, I've withdrawn my veto.
>>
>> No :)  I'd like to come to consensus.  You may even convince me it's not
>> a good idea.
>>
>> I think that maybe one solution that may address your concerns would be
>> to actually put the file under SVN!  Then
>>
>> a) you'll notice when there's something in it - the state of the file in
>> SVN should always be empty
>>
>> b) If you forget and commit, someone can flag it.
>
> This would also solve that problem with non-existing file.
> But, now this adds even less value - the only difference from
> mainstream x-lists is somewhat lesser chance for conflicts :).


> And therefore no harm right?  So I'm not going to waste time trying to
> convince you of the value if you can't see it.  But have we come to
> agreement that there's no real danger?
Yes, if it is not svn-ignored.


geir


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