My point was searching JIRA is more convenient than searching mail. But that's probably due to I can't use my mailer tool, as I was pointed.
Vasily -----Original Message----- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 8:05 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: How to mark ready-to-integrate JIRAs? I never tire of this ;) inline On Dec 27, 2006, at 5:11 PM, Zakharov, Vasily M wrote: > >> maybe we adopt a new [tag] for traffic? > > It seems to me, everybody would soon skip it without looking. > And those few who wouldn't, read harmony-commits list anyway and > see any > changes occuring. So if people aren't interested in it in mail traffic (and I'm telling you there is at least one person who is - me - because I can always take my mailbox w/ me and read it when disconnected, and search it freely, and...), why would they be interested in it a new marker in JIRA? IOW, doesn't this boil down to the fact that we're looking for a vehicle to communicate? > > It's better not to write a mail at all, than write it marking "this is > non-important message, > don't read it" - the result is the same, but the traffic is higher and > more time is spent. > And we already have a list for such "non-important" messages, > harmony-commits. :) Actually, the harmony-commit stream is very, very important - it's how we are able to help each other out and make the project better by spotting problems immediately... geir > > Vasily > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 1:00 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: How to mark ready-to-integrate JIRAs? > > > On Dec 27, 2006, at 4:14 PM, Zakharov, Vasily M wrote: > >> Hi, all, >> >> There're many issues in our JIRA that can be closed or integrated >> with no much effort. Issues with simple patches but with no >> "patch available" flag set, "Won't Fix" issues, non-bug differences >> are all good examples. >> >> And closing an issue (in a right way) is always good as it allows >> that issue to be forgotten and put off everybody's mind - one problem >> less to think of. >> >> But we have no effective instrument for a contributor to attract >> a committer's attention to a particular small issue. > > The dev list? Please? > >> >> For now the only way to do that is writing to the dev-list, >> which is not very effective - we already have traffic high enough. >> Moreover, that information is only relevant to committers, who are >> minority (though very important) in the list - all other contributors >> would read such a message for nothing, wasting their time. > > Not true! There are lots of benefits to this kind of thing, such as > raising more public awareness about the issue, let people with ideas > review and comment, etc > >> >> The other way used now to attract a committer's attention, is setting >> "Patch available" flag. But I can only set it on my own issues, >> and setting it is probably not appopriate for "Won't Fix" issues. >> >> Probably we could introduce some keyword, for example, FIX_AVAILABLE, >> that contributors could add to their comments to the respective JIRAs >> and committers could search for using conventional JIRA search? >> >> This way the committers' reaction to patches could be faster and >> choosing the right issue to put efforts to would be more well-founded >> and information-based for committers. >> >> What do you think? > > I'm going to be a stick in the mud here - the best way to get > people's attention should be dev list - maybe we adopt a new [tag] > for traffic? > > geir > >> >> Vasily Zakharov >> Intel Enterprise Solutions Software Division
