Elliott,

It would be good if you could address the specific points that I have
called out. I want to be sure that at least our decision making is
consistent and without the appearance of a double standard.


On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Elliott Clark <ecl...@apache.org> wrote:

> Any thoughts on HBASE-9121.  At it's heart it's just a version bump of
> HTrace to 2.0 (fully released into maven central and available on
> Cloudera's github).  The new version of htrace is modularized so that
> hbase-client doesn't drag in any new dependencies on the client side.
>
> Along with that modularization we would get the ability for 0.95/0.96
> to relay to Zipkin producing some pretty useful info for stabilizing
> the release(tracing is what found that scan pre-fetching was broken)
> and very useful for our users.
>
> For me I think that it's small enough that it would meet a higher bar
> to get things into 0.95.  But since there were some thoughts on here
> I've held off on comitting.
>
> On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Andrew Purtell <apurt...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > Clarification would be great. I read Elliot's veto of our work as based
> on
> > both process and maturity concerns. Let's see how they stack up.
> >
> >> HFileV3:
> >> * Showed up very late in the merge window
> >
> > Same
> >
> >> * Still needs revisions
> >
> > Has not even been reviewed yet. Depends on code only existing in a
> > developer's private GitHub.
> >
> >> * Hasn't been put on large clusters publicly.
> >
> > Same
> >
> >> * Is not the green field HFileV3, and doesn't have time for a complete
> > re-do
> >
> > Not applicable
> >
> >> * Can easily be done without out downtime
> >
> > Same
> >
> >> * Will 100% have perf impacts.
> >
> > See my other comment about perf impacts if V3 is used without tags.
> >
> >
> > I have no objection to the trace work on technical grounds.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Andrew Purtell <apurt...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > JIRA says that was created August 3, ie today, is that right?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> Yes.
> >>
> >> (Elliott can clarify later when he gets in)  My understanding is that
> it is
> >> an update to our bundled htrace jar -- pushing a new release -- and
> adding
> >> some trace extra trace spans to expose where time is being spent during
> >> MTTR.
> >>
> >> St.Ack
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> >
> >    - Andy
> >
> > Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein
> > (via Tom White)
>



-- 
Best regards,

   - Andy

Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein
(via Tom White)

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