Is "noob" really "pejorative"? If you must change it, I prefer "beginner".

I do like having a distinction separate from the severity of the ticket;
the criticality is orthogonal to how complex or involved it's solution
might be.


On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Jonathan Hsieh <j...@cloudera.com> wrote:

> +1 for beginner (+0.5 for all the others).
>
> Jon.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Mikhail Antonov <olorinb...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > "Could a non-native English speaker comment on if either makes more sense
> > (or if something else would be better still)?"
> >
> > "beginner" or "for_beginners" would be good IMO.
> >
> > -Mikhail
> >
> >
> > 2014-08-05 8:43 GMT-07:00 Sean Busbey <bus...@cloudera.com>:
> >
> > > The labels "introductory" or "intro" seem the most straightforward to
> me.
> > >
> > > Could a non-native English speaker comment on if either makes more
> sense
> > > (or if something else would be better still)?
> > >
> > > -Sean
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Andrew Purtell <apurt...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yes we can change that. I volunteer to change it. What should the new
> > > label
> > > > be?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 7:18 AM, Jonathan Hsieh <j...@cloudera.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > We've just used 'noob', and in other cases marked the issue as
> > > 'trivial'.
> > > > >
> > > > > If we really wanted to remove any perceived stigma away we'd called
> > > them
> > > > > 'starter' or 'intro' issue to remove negative connotation.  If
> others
> > > > agree
> > > > > we can chage this.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jon.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 6:43 AM, Sean Busbey <bus...@cloudera.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'd like to add to the "Getting Involved" section on jira[1] to
> > add a
> > > > > > pointer to issues that are a good for ramping up on HBase
> > > development.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Preferably, these would be tickets that
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * Have been vetted as desired and non-controversial
> > > > > > * Are low priority so they need not be done under time pressure
> > > > > > * Offer a view of some (small-ish) part of the code base
> > > > > > * Require minimal information about HBase outside of the section
> to
> > > be
> > > > > > fixed
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Before I add file a ticket and put up a patch, what label do we
> use
> > > to
> > > > > mark
> > > > > > these tickets? Looking at jira, I can see some evidence of both
> > > > > "newbie"[2]
> > > > > > and "noob"[3].
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am used to seeing "newbie" on other projects, so I had started
> > with
> > > > > that
> > > > > > label. However, it looks like "noob" is used more regularly on
> > HBase.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I worry that "noob" might be viewed as pejorative and discourage
> > some
> > > > > > potential contributors.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [1]: http://hbase.apache.org/book.html#jira
> > > > > > [2]: http://s.apache.org/exr
> > > > > > [3]: http://s.apache.org/XS6
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Sean
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > // Jonathan Hsieh (shay)
> > > > > // HBase Tech Lead, Software Engineer, Cloudera
> > > > > // j...@cloudera.com // @jmhsieh
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > >    - Andy
> > > >
> > > > Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet
> > Hein
> > > > (via Tom White)
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sean
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks,
> > Michael Antonov
> >
>
>
>
> --
> // Jonathan Hsieh (shay)
> // HBase Tech Lead, Software Engineer, Cloudera
> // j...@cloudera.com // @jmhsieh
>

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