(I think I understand the problems enough to comment, but, admittedly, my 5minute read is probably lacking)

I think the only argument against what you all have outlined here is if, in the future, we have some intent to create new implementations of HRegion or HStore. If that's the case, Region could still be the CP's "view" of what a region is, we could introduce another interface which defines what the internal/private "view" of a region is, and then we plug in the implementation of choice (e.g. HRegion as we know it now would become something like HRegionImpl).

However, I'm struggling to come up with a concrete use-case as to why we would need that extra level of indirection. As such, I think the below proposal makes sense.

The distillation of a tricky issue is quite appreciated!

On 10/4/17 6:51 PM, Andrew Purtell wrote:
I think it is fine to rebrand these interfaces as for coprocessors and tag
them LP(COPROC):

     Region (use HRegion in internals)

     Store (use HStore in internals)

     MasterServices (use HMaster in internals)

     RegionServerServices (use HRegionServer in internals)

and pare them down. This is not a complete list, just a handful of examples.

Some specific points of feedback I have had:

In Region, it would be good for CPs to be able to schedule async flushes
and compactions, poll or wait for completion of a specific request, or wait
for all pending flushes and compactions to complete. There is a Phoenix use
case for this in indexing.

Security coprocessors use MasterServices to create their system tables.
Maybe this can be replaced by using the normal admin API for same.

When removing access to internal services, consider if there are client API
equivalents that the CP can use, and if embedded calls to such client APIs
from the coprocessor context would be a good idea. CP invocation of an
internal service is simply an in-process method call. That's good and bad,
right? The bad part, direct access, is the thing we want to restrict, the
motivation for this work (in part). But the good thing is it avoids a lot
of the fat client logic unnecessary for all-in-process service invocation,
which might even not work correctly. Removing everything is as drastic as
allowing CPs access to everything. It could be fine to drastically pare
down, but please consider it.

Some changes have been proposed that removes access to metrics (e.g.
RegionMetrics, MasterMetrics). Right now coprocessors can bypass core
function and replace it. Until and unless we remove the bypass semantic
(under discussion) we should continue to allow CPs access to metrics
objects so they can update metrics as expected by admins and users when
replacing functionality (via bypass). Metrics are a public facing API. I
agree this is kind of dodgy. I believe we should remove the bypass
semantic. Once that is done, coprocessors can only mix in additional
functionality. No more cause to touch core metrics. They can export their
own metrics if so desired.
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On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 3:15 PM, Stack <[email protected]> wrote:
​​

A bunch of us are making good progress on the next alpha release,
hbase-2.0.0-alpha-4. The theme for this release is "Fixing the Coprocessor
API", mostly undoing access accidentally granted Coprocessors. I'm talking
out loud about a particularly awkward item here rather than in a comment up
in JIRA so the airing sees a broader audience. Interested in any opinions
or input you might have.

TL;DR MasterService/RegionServerService and Region, etc., Interfaces were
overloaded serving two, disparate roles; a load of refactoring has to be
done to undo the damage. Suggestions for how to avoid making same mistake
in future?

I'm working on "HBASE-12260 MasterServices - remove from coprocessor API
(Discuss)". MasterServices started out as a subset of the Master
functionality. The idea back then was that certain Services and Managers
could make do w/ less-than-full-access to the HMaster process. If so, we
could test the Service and Manager without having to standup a full HMaster
instance (This usually required our putting up a cluster too). If
MasterServices had but a few methods, a Mock would be easy, making testing
easier still. We did the same thing on the RegionServer side where we had
RegionServerServices.

MasterServices (and RegionServerServices) were also exposed to
Coprocessors. The idea was that CPs could ask-for particular Master
functions via MasterService. In this role MasterServices was meant to
constrain what CPs had access to.

MasterServices therefore had two consumers; one internal, the other not.

With time, MasterServices got fat as internal Services and Managers needed
more of HMaster. Everytime we added to MasterServices, CPs got access.

On survey as part of the recent HBASE-12260 work, it turns out that the
bulk of the methods in MasterServices are actually annotated
InterfaceAudience.Private; i.e. for internal use only, not for
Coprocessors. A brutal purge of Private audience objects, makes for a
MasterServices we can pass Coprocessors but Coprocessors now have much less
facility available (for parts, there are alternatives; Andy review suggests
that CPs are severely crimped if this patch goes in). But MasterServices
can no longer be used for its original purpose, passing Services and
Managers a subset of HMaster. The latter brings on a substantial refactor.

Another example of the double-role problem outlined above was found by Duo
and Anoop in the RegionServer Coprocessor refactor salt mine. They hit a
similar tangle. There was the RegionServerServices <=> MasterServices case
but also the exposure of HRegion internals. In this latter, Region was
introduced by Andy EXPLICITLY as a subset of HRegion facility FOR
Coprocessors. Subsequently, we all confused his original intent and went
ahead and thought of Region (as opposed to HRegion) as an Interface for
HRegion and plumbed it throughout the code base in place of explicit
HRegion references. As Region picked up functionality, Coprocessors gained
more access.

The refactoring pattern that has emerged out of the RegionServer-side
refactoring (which is ahead of the Master-work), is that we move to use the
HRegion implementation everywhere internally, undoing use of Region
Interface; Region Interface picks up a "FOR COPROCESSORS ONLY" stamp. I'm
following suit on the Master side moving to use HMaster in place of
MasterServices in all launched Services and Managers.

How do we avoid this mistake in future? Should we rename Region as
CoprocessorRegion so it more plain that its consumer is Coprocessors? Ditto
on MasterServices?

Thanks,
S




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