A couple of other contribution concerns: a) Yetus Precommit works with github PRs, but the ASF Jenkins admin job that sends requests over to our job that runs the precommit tests does not. It's a minor issue (in that collectively we know what has to change), but someone will have to do the work.
b) We've just started getting better release notes together by using Yetus Release Doc Maker. AFAIK it currently only works off of JIRA. I know we haven't said anything about not having a JIRA associated with changes just because we support github PRs, but it'll be around the corner because we'll be duplicating work for those PRs. The two may very well stay side-by-site for those who don't have/want GitHub accounts, but if anything that makes the situation for "how do I gather release notes" more complicated. c) Are more casual PRs a boon? In addition to HBase I spend time on an open source project that relies exclusively on GitHub tooling and I lurk on several others. One thing I've noticed is that while the number of casual PRs is certainly higher they tend to be "drop off PRs"; the engagement for follow up is much lower. Many folks who get that PR up on GitHub then don't come back to address requests from reviewers. We'll have to pick one or more of closing unresponsive PRs, more proactively having committers "fix up" contributions, providing more feedback as "follow-on work" instead of something that gets done during the review. I personally would favor closing unresponsive PRs because it has the least overhead for our already sparse reviewing bandwidth. d) All this said, we don't need to move to gitbox to accept PRs. We can do anything today that we could do after moving to gitbox except have committers merge the PR directly from the GitHub interface. That's not easier for contributors, that's easier for committers. I'm definitely not saying this is a bad thing. I do a non-trivial amount of reviews from my phone and the github UI is definitely worlds better. On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 10:08 PM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote: > This came up at the recent devs meeting: could we move to github flow > committing to Apache HBase? Do folks want this? If so, what would it take? > What would it look like? > > The new gitbox repos at apache allow contribution back into apache via > github tooling: PRs can be merged into apache repos with a click of a > button, github-based comments can show as comments in apache JIRA. The new > hbase-operator-tools and hbase-connector repos are gitbox based. We can run > experiments there with fear of damage to the core. > > The justification is that if our project supported PRs and contribution via > github, we could glean more contributors. > > Below I repeat two follow-on comments taken from the "Rough notes from dev > meetup, day after hbaseconasia 2018, saturday morning" thread by way of a > kickstart: > > From our Josh Elser: > >> This [supporting PRs] is something the PMC should take to heart. If we > are excluding >> contributions because of how we choose accept them, we're limiting our own >> growth. Do we have technical reasons (e.g. PreCommit) which we cannot > accept >> PR's or is it just because "we do patches because we do patches"? >> > > By our Sean: > > "I don't want to bog down this thread, but there are a ton of > unanswered questions for allowing github PRs. > > "The biggest one for me is that JIRA is currently our best hope for an > authoritative place for authorship information. If we're taking PRs > from folks who have GitHub accounts but find ASF JIRA accounts too > burdensome, what are we putting for the author in JIRA? Am I going to > have to look in JIRA before a certain date and in Git after? Or in Git > only if JIRA is set to some "HBase Contributor from GitHub" account?" > > Thanks, > St.Ack
