"I think we need to revert the recent error-prone related work"
-- Andrew, can you please give an example about this? Such as a JIRA that
has this kind of failure in pre-commit build.

" Checkstyle's
ImportOrder is one that always trips me up and no matter where I place the
imports continues to complain."

-- I had some struggles about this too,  though, after I installed
checkstyle plugin in intellij and used it before generating patches, it
became less painful. I don't have any objection removing the check at the
same time. Contributors should still try their best to organize imports
cleanly and orderly.


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On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 12:02 PM Andrew Purtell <[email protected]> wrote:

> I have been contributing to this project for more than ten years and have
> noticed it is increasingly difficult to do so.
>
> For me the issues come down to precommit results. Precommit is a very
> useful tool, but *only if committers are attentive to fixing breaking
> changes immediately*. This has been an eternal problem.
>
> Also in fairness some problems I've thought are external to my patch have
> turned out to be indirect consequences. Here the issue is I'm not able to
> trust precommit so true positive results are still sometimes suspect.
>
> I think we need to revert the recent error-prone related work, this seems
> to be the cause of some of the false failures in precommit jobs I've looked
> at.
>
> In other cases we should adjust some static check settings. Checkstyle's
> ImportOrder is one that always trips me up and no matter where I place the
> imports continues to complain. I'm at a loss and it's really a trivial
> matter. Let's just turn it off.
>
> The transient issues we sometimes face with Apache build infra are possibly
> tolerable, I'm not referring to those.
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Andrew
>
> Words like orphans lost among the crosstalk, meaning torn from truth's
> decrepit hands
>    - A23, Crosstalk
>

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