On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 11:16 AM Andrew Purtell <apurt...@apache.org> wrote:

> Like this?
>
> https://gist.github.com/apurtell/f5959f36b0b13d5e92f35b22549020cc
>
>
>
Looks good to me. 2.3.0 CHANGELOG doesn't display because it is too big --
it is an accumulation of all changes up to 2.3 (good IMO) whereas 2.2+2.1,
etc. are just the changes in those releases versus the previous version --
but you can view the 'raw version' of the 2.3 doc which is good enough I
think.
S



> On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 10:04 AM Nick Dimiduk <ndimi...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 12:16 PM Andrew Purtell <apurt...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I think by git tag would work. Given the URL can be different from the
> >> visible anchor text we could use an exact git sha too, if there is
> concern
> >> that tags might be changed either accidentally or intentionally in a way
> >> that breaks embedded links in old changelogs.
> >>
> >
> > A link back to the CHANGES file in GitHub of a release tag, along with
> the
> > tag's sha at the time of link generation, would achieve my request that
> the
> > point to a rendered version of the changes file where possible. Thank
> you!
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 11:57 AM Nick Dimiduk <ndimi...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I am in favor of referring off to the changes files of older releases.
> >> > Would that be by git tag, or to the files in the distribution
> archives?
> >> >
> >> > I don’t think these changes files are for marketing as such. However,
> I
> >> > think they are intended to be human-readable (if not for humans, then
> >> > who/what, and why?). Not having a rendered version easily discoverable
> >> is a
> >> > barrier to this goal, and shrinking the file such that it renders in
> >> GitHub
> >> > is a low-cost approach to achieve that goal.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Nick
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 20:04 Andrew Purtell <
> andrew.purt...@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Unless there is an objection to the plan I described below, it will
> >> > happen
> >> > > tomorrow on branch-2 in prep for RC.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > > On Nov 30, 2020, at 4:46 PM, Andrew Purtell <apurt...@apache.org>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > I'm glad I checked email before beginning the RC.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > How about this:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > CHANGES.md file that ships in 2.4.0 will contain URLs pointing to
> >> older
> >> > > CHANGES.md for 1.0.0, 2.0.0, 2.1.0, 2.2.0, 2.3.0.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > CHANGES.md file that ships with 2.4.0 will list all issues
> completed
> >> > for
> >> > > 2.4.0
> >> > > >
> >> > > > CHANGES.md file that ships with 2.4.1 will list all issues
> completed
> >> > for
> >> > > 2.4.0 and 2.4.1.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > etc. until 2.5.0, at which point the CHANGES.md file that ships in
> >> > 2.5.0
> >> > > will contain URLs pointing to older CHANGES.md for 1.0.0, 2.0.0,
> >> 2.1.0,
> >> > > 2.2.0, 2.3.0, and 2.4.0, and will list all issues completed for
> 2.5.0.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I have felt traditionally the changes file is not where we do
> >> release
> >> > > upgrade marketing.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > If the objective is giving user-friendly and self-service answers
> >> to an
> >> > > operator or developer asking, "why should I upgrade? / what's new in
> >> this
> >> > > release?", then I humbly submit we should bring back the practice of
> >> > > writing blog posts for blogs.apache.org/hbase. Speaking of which,
> >> that
> >> > > blog is in a somewhat sad state of disrepair with a lot of broken
> >> image
> >> > > links.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 1:02 PM Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote:
> >> > > >> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 12:34 PM Nick Dimiduk <
> ndimi...@apache.org
> >> >
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> > So concretely, the conclusion here is that the CHANGES.md file
> >> that
> >> > > ships
> >> > > >> > in 2.4.0 should contain entries for 2.0.0, 2.1.0, 2.2.0, 2.3.0,
> >> and
> >> > > 2.4.0?
> >> > > >> > The CHANGES.md file that ships in 2.4.1 will contain all of the
> >> > > above, plus
> >> > > >> > entries for 2.4.1.
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> And the 1.0.0 changes.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Point at a 1.0.0 CHANGES.md file rather than list the 1.0.0
> >> changes.
> >> > > Ditto
> >> > > >> for 2.0.0 changes. Could do pointer for older minor releases too
> if
> >> > too
> >> > > >> many items to list... 2.1 and maybe 2.2.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> S
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> > Are you sure that's what you want? That seems like more than we
> >> > need.
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > Thanks,
> >> > > >> > Nick
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 5:47 PM 张铎(Duo Zhang) <
> >> > palomino...@gmail.com>
> >> > > >> > wrote:
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > > +1 on what Sean proposed to include the changes started from
> >> the
> >> > > first
> >> > > >> > > major release.
> >> > > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > Sean Busbey <bus...@apache.org> 于2020年11月10日周二 下午7:37写道:
> >> > > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > I thought we had written up a guide before for what goes in
> >> the
> >> > > changes
> >> > > >> > > > file, but I can't find it at the moment.
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > For branch 2.3 I am surprised at 0.99 stuff. I would
> expect:
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > * 2.0.0
> >> > > >> > > > * 2.1.0
> >> > > >> > > > * 2.2.0
> >> > > >> > > > * 2.3.[0-z]
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > Because that would be enough that if I was coming from the
> >> prior
> >> > > major
> >> > > >> > > > release I could see everything that might matter getting to
> >> the
> >> > > >> > release.
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > If we just include 2.3.z changes then I have to go look at
> >> each
> >> > > of the
> >> > > >> > > > previous minor releases on the release line as well.
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > We've talked for some time about possibly including release
> >> > notes
> >> > > /
> >> > > >> > > changes
> >> > > >> > > > for just those things in each individual release on the
> >> website
> >> > > before.
> >> > > >> > > > Would adding something like that be sufficient for the use
> >> > you're
> >> > > >> > > thinking
> >> > > >> > > > of?
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2020, 15:35 Nick Dimiduk <
> ndimi...@apache.org
> >> >
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > Heya,
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > The CHANGES.md file on branch-2.3 weighs in at over 1mb
> >> and is
> >> > > too
> >> > > >> > big
> >> > > >> > > > for
> >> > > >> > > > > Github to render. Its content covers back to 0.99. This
> >> isn't
> >> > > really
> >> > > >> > > > usable
> >> > > >> > > > > by someone who wants to easily see what's new in the
> latest
> >> > > patch
> >> > > >> > > > release.
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > I propose we truncate these changes files to what's new
> for
> >> > the
> >> > > >> > release
> >> > > >> > > > > branch. It probably needs some more work, but the
> git-jira
> >> > audit
> >> > > >> > script
> >> > > >> > > > [0]
> >> > > >> > > > > is able to generate a report of what's new (never
> >> previously
> >> > > >> > released)
> >> > > >> > > > for
> >> > > >> > > > > a target release-line branch. We could use this as the
> >> basis
> >> > > for the
> >> > > >> > > > > CHANGES file when starting a new release-line branch.
> From
> >> > then
> >> > > on,
> >> > > >> > > Yetus
> >> > > >> > > > > takes care of the patch release updates.
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > What do you think?
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > Thanks,
> >> > > >> > > > > Nick
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > [0]:
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > >
> >> > > >> >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> https://github.com/apache/hbase/tree/master/dev-support/git-jira-release-audit
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > >
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > Best regards,
> >> > > > Andrew
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Words like orphans lost among the crosstalk, meaning torn from
> >> truth's
> >> > > decrepit hands
> >> > > >    - A23, Crosstalk
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best regards,
> >> Andrew
> >>
> >> Words like orphans lost among the crosstalk, meaning torn from truth's
> >> decrepit hands
> >>    - A23, Crosstalk
> >>
> >
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Andrew
>
> Words like orphans lost among the crosstalk, meaning torn from truth's
> decrepit hands
>    - A23, Crosstalk
>

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