Thanks, Reid, for volunteering to RM 1.7.0.  If you would like some
assistance in stabilizing the tests and getting branch-1 into a
release-ready state, please let me know. I see the flaky list is pretty
long and I'm happy to take some JIRAs.

Geoffrey

On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 11:22 AM Andrew Purtell <apurt...@apache.org> wrote:

> Reid Chan has committed to completing the 1.7.0 release, please see
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-25725 .
>
> So the execution of a public EOL statement for branch-1 can proceed, by the
> apparent consensus surfaced by this thread, but we should respect his wish
> to complete 1.7.0. This makes a nice end to branch-1, IMHO, flushing out
> all of the unreleased changes in that branch.
>
> On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 11:11 AM Nick Dimiduk <ndimi...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Also big +1 from me.
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 09:08 Huaxiang Sun <huaxiang...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Per performance regression concern, we had one such issue for meta when
> > > upgrading from 1.2 to 2.3.
> > > It turned out to be default rpc scheduling changed from branch-1 to
> > > branch-2, and it causes performance regression.
> >
> >
> > Huaxiang, do you have a JIRA covering this change? What is your suggested
> > remediation for branch-2 releases? Can/should we make the fix the default
> > behavior, or is there good reason to keep us running in this “slow mode”
> by
> > default, require operators to opt-in to the perf boost?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Nick
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 8:22 AM Pankaj Kumar <pankajkumarbi...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > +1 on EOL branch-1 and all branch-1.x.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Pankaj
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 3:34 AM Andrew Purtell <apurt...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Is it time to consider EOL of branch-1 and all 1.x releases ?
> > > > >
> > > > > There doesn't seem to be much developer interest in branch-1 beyond
> > > > > occasional maintenance. This is understandable. Per our
> compatibility
> > > > > guidelines, branch-1 commits must be compatible with Java 7, and
> the
> > > > range
> > > > > of acceptable versions of third party dependencies is also
> restricted
> > > due
> > > > > to Java 7 compatibility requirements. Most developers are writing
> > code
> > > > with
> > > > > Java 8+ idioms these days. For that reason and because the branch-1
> > > code
> > > > > base is generally aged at this point, all but trivial (or lucky!)
> > > > backports
> > > > > require substantial changes in order to integrate adequately. Let
> me
> > > also
> > > > > observe that branch-1 artifacts are not fully compatible with Java
> 11
> > > or
> > > > > later. (The shell is a good example of such issues: The version of
> > > > > jruby-complete required by branch-1 is not compatible with Java 11
> > and
> > > > > upgrading to the version used by branch-2 causes shell commands to
> > > error
> > > > > out due to Ruby language changes.)
> > > > >
> > > > > We can a priori determine there is insufficient motivation for
> > > production
> > > > > of release artifacts for the PMC to vote upon. Otherwise, someone
> > would
> > > > > have done it. We had 12 releases from branch-2 derived code in
> 2019,
> > 13
> > > > > releases from branch-2 derived code in 2020, and so far we have
> had 3
> > > > > releases from branch-2 derived code in 2021. In contrast, we had 8
> > > > releases
> > > > > from branch-1 derived code in 2019, 0 releases from branch-1 in
> 2020,
> > > and
> > > > > so far 0 releases from branch-1 in 2021.
> > > > >
> > > > > *  2021202020191.x0282.x31312*
> > > > >
> > > > > If there is someone interested in continuing branch-1, now is the
> > time
> > > to
> > > > > commit. However let me be clear that simply expressing an abstract
> > > desire
> > > > > to see continued branch-1 releases will not be that useful. It will
> > be
> > > > > noted, but will not have much real world impact. Apache is a
> > do-ocracy.
> > > > In
> > > > > the absence of intrinsic motivation of project participants, which
> is
> > > > what
> > > > > we seem to have here, you will need to do something: Fix the
> > > > compatibility
> > > > > issues, if any between the last release of 1.x and the current
> > branch-1
> > > > > head; fix any failing and flaky unit tests; produce release
> > artifacts;
> > > > and
> > > > > submit those artifacts to the PMC for voting. Or, convince someone
> > with
> > > > > commit rights and/or PMC membership to undertake these actions on
> > your
> > > > > behalf.
> > > > >
> > > > > Otherwise, I respectfully submit for your consideration, it is time
> > to
> > > > > declare  branch-1 and all 1.x code lines EOL, simply acknowledging
> > what
> > > > has
> > > > > effectively already happened.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > Andrew
> > > > >
> > > > > Words like orphans lost among the crosstalk, meaning torn from
> > truth's
> > > > > decrepit hands
> > > > >    - A23, Crosstalk
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Andrew
>
> Words like orphans lost among the crosstalk, meaning torn from truth's
> decrepit hands
>    - A23, Crosstalk
>

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