Good news, LOG4J2-3341 has been landed. It will be released in log4j 2.17.2.

Will start to test it soon.

Thanks.

张铎(Duo Zhang) <palomino...@gmail.com> 于2022年1月25日周二 17:15写道:

> I would prefer we have LOG4J2-3341 first before releasing any 2.x releases
> with log4j2. I pinged the log4j community once but no response yet. Will
> try to ping again soon.
>
> Andrew Purtell <andrew.purt...@gmail.com> 于2022年1月25日周二 10:09写道:
>
>> Reload4J is a great option when we really should maintain fairly strict
>> compatibility (patch releases) and less so when not (minors, majors).
>>
>> We haven’t released 2.5.0 yet. My fault, mainly... It’s been lagging.
>> Perhaps we could backport Duo’s work from 3.0.0-alpha into branch-2.5 /
>> 2.5.0? This would be a minor release, so, while some operational
>> compatibility breaks would be somewhat surprising, it could be more
>> understandable.
>>
>> > On Jan 24, 2022, at 5:00 PM, Zach York <zy...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > +1 on the original discussion
>> >
>> > I think that all makes sense, we can't know whether one dependency is
>> more
>> > vulnerable/going to be more work to maintain or not. However, I think
>> > perhaps the more interesting question is whether we should be okay with
>> > using EOL dependencies in any active release line. CVEs happen... I
>> think
>> > it's important to be able to react quickly. By depending on any EOL
>> code in
>> > our active release lines, we severely limit our ability to quickly deal
>> > with CVEs. I understand it's not always easy (the backwards
>> incompatibility
>> > of log4j2 and the properties files are good examples), but it's also
>> been
>> > 6+ years since log4j 1.x has become EOL.
>> >
>> >> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 11:47 AM Andrew Purtell <apurt...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I will offer a guess as answer to the question originally proposed,
>> which
>> >> is, no the Logging PMC is not going to behave in a cooperative manner
>> to
>> >> Reload4J. The best we can hope for, and I personally doubt it, is they
>> will
>> >> not be actively hostile. Decisions made by Apache PMC can
>> unfortunately be
>> >> made on the basis of years-long running arguments and personality
>> >> conflicts, and Logging is unfortunately one of them. Just my opinion.
>> You
>> >> won't change it. Fortunately that is neither here nor there. We aren't
>> here
>> >> to judge up front if Reload4J can respond adequately to hypothetical
>> future
>> >> security issues. That is not knowable and remains to be seen. It also
>> >> remains to be seen if Log4J 2 is going to respond adequately to future
>> >> security issues. Or Netty. Or Jersey. Or Jackson. Or any of our other
>> risky
>> >> third party dependencies (as measured by having "interesting" CVEs).
>> What
>> >> we can do is look at the current track record, which has been adequate
>> so
>> >> far.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 11:35 AM Wei-Chiu Chuang
>> >> <weic...@cloudera.com.invalid> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> The reload4j is maintained by one of the Apache Logging PMC. And a
>> >> release
>> >>> was made to address the latest log4j 1.x CVEs announced only a day
>> after.
>> >>>
>> >>> There is a thread in the private@logging that mentioned the “new”
>> >> log4j1.x
>> >>> CVEs were actually not new. They were announced years before for 2.x
>> >> which
>> >>> happens to also impact 1.x. But because 1.x was considered EOL, they
>> >> didn’t
>> >>> bother to mention 1.x were affected. It is only now that 1.x’s getting
>> >>> interest that they did this.
>> >>>
>> >>> Sean Busbey <bus...@apache.org>於 2022年1月22日 週六,上午2:47寫道:
>> >>>
>> >>>> It's relevant to what kind of mitigation this is. The effectiveness
>> of
>> >>>> reload4j to deal with "the critical CVEs of log4j 1" is limited by
>> how
>> >>>> likely it is that they know about them.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Otherwise at the next CVE we're back in the same place where
>> downstream
>> >>>> users aren't meaningfully more protected. And in that case perhaps we
>> >>> would
>> >>>> do better for our users by e.g. putting more emphasis upgrading
>> across
>> >>> our
>> >>>> releases or providing breaking changes to get the pain over with.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 11:03 AM Andrew Purtell <
>> >>> andrew.purt...@gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> That does not seem germane to this discussion. We don’t investigate
>> >> and
>> >>>>> attempt to manage the security reporting arrangement of any of our
>> >>> other
>> >>>>> third party dependencies.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Jan 21, 2022, at 7:59 AM, Sean Busbey <bus...@apache.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Has anyone asked the ASF Logging PMC if they'll forward security
>> >>>> reports
>> >>>>>> against log4j 1 to the reload4j project?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 3:33 AM Pankaj Kumar <
>> >>> pankajku...@apache.org>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> +1 for reload4j.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Regards,
>> >>>>>>> Pankaj
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022, 2:39 PM 张铎(Duo Zhang) <
>> >> palomino...@gmail.com
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Already filed HBASE-26691.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Wei-Chiu Chuang <weic...@apache.org> 于2022年1月21日周五 16:53写道:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> +1 I am doing the same in Hadoop.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 4:51 PM Viraj Jasani <
>> >> vjas...@apache.org>
>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> +1 for Reload4J migration in active release branches.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 21 Jan 2022 at 12:52 PM, Andrew Purtell <
>> >>>>>>>>> andrew.purt...@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> +1 for migrating to Reload4J. It is binary and configuration
>> >>>>>>>> compatible
>> >>>>>>>>>>> with log4j 1 so meets our compatibility guidelines.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> If this is an agreeable plan I can make the changes in a PR
>> >> and
>> >>> we
>> >>>>>>>> can
>> >>>>>>>>> do
>> >>>>>>>>>>> a round of new releases.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 10:16 PM, Duo Zhang <zhang...@apache.org
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On master we have already migrated to log4j2, but for all
>> >>> other
>> >>>>>>>>>> release
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> lines we are still on log4j1.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Recently there are several new CVEs for log4j1, so I think we
>> >>>>>>>> should
>> >>>>>>>>>> also
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> address them for release lines other than master.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> One possible solution is to also migrate log4j2 but use
>> >> log4j12
>> >>>>>>>>> bridge
>> >>>>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> maintain the compatibility, but we have already known that
>> >>>>>>> log4j12
>> >>>>>>>>>> bridge
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> can not work perfectly with hadoop, as hadoop has some
>> >>> customized
>> >>>>>>>>>> log4j1
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> appender implementations, which inherit some log4j1 appenders
>> >>>>>>> which
>> >>>>>>>>> are
>> >>>>>>>>>>> not
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> part of the log4j12 bridge.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Reload4j is a fork of the log4j1 and has fixed the critical
>> >>> CVEs,
>> >>>>>>>> so
>> >>>>>>>>> it
>> >>>>>>>>>>> is
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> less hurt to replace log4j with reload4j.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Suggestions are welcomed.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. Regards
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Best regards,
>> >> Andrew
>> >>
>> >> Unrest, ignorance distilled, nihilistic imbeciles -
>> >>    It's what we’ve earned
>> >> Welcome, apocalypse, what’s taken you so long?
>> >> Bring us the fitting end that we’ve been counting on
>> >>   - A23, Welcome, Apocalypse
>> >>
>>
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