Thanks for your thoughts. I put a PR up a few moments ago for HBASE-27381.
I'll start up threads for discussing the other two points.

On Mon, Oct 3, 2022 at 1:05 PM Andrew Purtell <apurt...@apache.org> wrote:

> Thanks Bryan. Responses inline.
>
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 11:31 AM Bryan Beaudreault
> <bbeaudrea...@hubspot.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Andrew!
> >
> > One thing I noticed from 2.5.0 was that a few JIRAs were included in that
> > release which did not have the proper fixVersions set (so did not show up
> > in CHANGES.md
> <http://CHANGES.md>).
> I fixed 4 of them before realizing that may not be the way
> > we should handle it. See [1] for the 4 I fixed (which we could revert to
> > 2.5.1 if appropriate), there may be others.
> >
>
> JIRA is supposed to be the canonical source of fix version data, so if
> there have been mistakes, the most important thing to do is update JIRA
> with corrections. If I understand you correctly this is what you were
> doing, and that would be the correct course of action imho. Then, if there
> was a significant omission from the changelog (something critical or
> blocker, I would say), we could always put out another release announcement
> indicating the changelog corrections, or just do that anyway.
>
> For the 2.5.1 release I will make a note that the 2.5.0 part of the
> changelog should be regenerated too to pick up the corrections.
>
>
> > I have filed a few small bugs which I just set the fixVersion to 2.5.1
> and
> > will try to get PRs out for soon, but we could also push them out if
> > needed.
> >
> > I also have https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-27381
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-27381>
> which would
> > be helpful to have opinions on since it might be worth fixing for 2.5.1
> if
> > possible. It's a recurrence of a past gnarly bug with some API
> > compatibility concerns.
> >
>
> +1 for removal. We should get this into the next 2.4 and 2.5 releases. I
> will defend the change.
>
> >
> > A 2.6.0 release this calendar year would be great! We have completed most
> > of the TLS work at this point. One other thing I was considering adding
> to
> > 2.6.0 was a backport of hbase-backups. There is a PR [2] from
> Mallikarjun,
> > we are currently evaluating internally. I think backporting to 2.x will
> > help get more exposure and contributions, since most people aren't
> running
> > 3.0-alpha and there's still a backlog of nice-to-haves in the "Phase 4"
> > jira [3] that have languished a bit. I realize this might even require a
> > VOTE thread given the past history? I was only going to bring it up if
> our
> > evaluation worked out, but seemed relevant to your 2.6.0 question.
> >
>
> Let's discuss what release criteria for TLS RPC might look like. We can set
> a tentative release date for 2.6.0 for the second week of December, with RC
> in the first week, to get things moving. Let's start a new thread on what
> kind of testing and qualification people would like to see. I have some
> thoughts on the minimum bar I would set as a RM.
>
> Regarding the proposed backport of hbase-backups, what I would suggest is
> raising a DISCUSS thread first. We shouldn't need a VOTE if we can get a
> consensus that the backport is fine, perhaps after giving the feature the
> usual qualification of "experimental" when performing a backport of this
> nature. An alternative viewpoint would be we should finish and polish the
> 3.0.0 release to ship backup. Help Duo finish it, get a 3.0.0 out that is
> not designated alpha. I do want to acknowledge the tradeoff... In order to
> make use of a backup feature released in 3.0.0, one would need to upgrade
> production to it, which may be a bridge too far; and so any significant use
> of it might be delayed, maybe for a long time, but if it were released in a
> 2.x version it would likely get near term evaluation. Anyway this would
> make a great separate DISCUSS thread :-) .
>
>
>
> >
> > [1]
> >
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-27241?jql=text%20~%20%22%5C%22Seems%20this%20actually%20landed%20in%202.5.0%5C%22%22
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-27241?jql=text%20~%20%22%5C%22Seems%20this%20actually%20landed%20in%202.5.0%5C%22%22>
> > [2] https://github.com/apache/hbase/pull/4770
> <https://github.com/apache/hbase/pull/4770>
> > [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-17362
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-17362>
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 11:13 AM Andrew Purtell <
> andrew.purt...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > We are already flattening and the proposed change adds release
> artifacts
> > > for hadoop3 using a new “hadoop3” classifier — at least, that is the
> > plan,
> > > let’s see if it works — and so the changes are additive. The default
> > build,
> > > which downstreamers consume as of 2.5.0 and all previous releases,
> > remains
> > > unchanged with respect to its dependency set. I think this means the
> > > changes are additive and orthogonal. That said I’d be fine with waiting
> > > until 2.6.0 to introduce the hadoop3 variant… in which case I would
> begin
> > > work on 2.6.0RC0 for anticipated release this calendar year. YDYT?
> > >
> > > > On Sep 27, 2022, at 7:15 AM, 张铎 <palomino...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > But I think flatten the pom profiles itself is also useful? It does
> > > > not make sense(and also does not work...) to activate a profile which
> > > > pulls in jars that are different from the ones we depend at the time
> > > > when building the hbase artifacts...
> > > >
> > > > Nick Dimiduk <ndimi...@apache.org> 于2022年9月27日周二 19:48写道:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> Yes -- that's why I brought it up in this discussion. I think that
> we
> > > >> should either finish the effort before 2.5.1 or revert it from
> > > >> branch-2.5 until we have a more complete implementation in place.
> > > >>
> > > >>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 12:15 PM 张铎(Duo Zhang) <
> > palomino...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> We already include HBASE-27340 in branch-2.5... So in the 2.5.1
> > > >>> release we will flatten the pom file, if we do not revert this
> > > >>> commit...
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Nick Dimiduk <ndimi...@apache.org> 于2022年9月27日周二 16:46写道:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I am also concerned about the feature that squashes out the
> profiles
> > > from
> > > >>>> our poms. To me, specifying the maven profile at build time is a
> > part
> > > of
> > > >>>> the API contract that we should not break in a patch release. I’d
> > > like to
> > > >>>> see that feature integrated into the do-release tooling such that
> > two
> > > sets
> > > >>>> of squished artifacts/maven repos are produced. And of course,
> > > updating the
> > > >>>> docs to explain how these are consumed.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Maybe we need a minor release line where we ship both the old
> style
> > > and the
> > > >>>> new style artifacts? We could do that with 2.5…
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > >>>> Nick
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 03:40 张铎(Duo Zhang) <
> palomino...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Thanks Andrew for taking care of this.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> For me there is an issue HBASE-27359, where we can publish
> > different
> > > >>>>> maven artifacts for hadoop2 and hadoop3, it can solve the problem
> > > >>>>> brought up by the phoenix guys. Do you think we should include
> this
> > > in
> > > >>>>> branch-2.5 and start from 2.5.1 or maybe 2.5.2 if it is too late
> > for
> > > >>>>> 2.5.1, to publish different maven artifacts for hadoop2 and
> > hadoop3,
> > > >>>>> or we still keep 2.5.x as is, and include this in the up coming
> > 2.6.x
> > > >>>>> release line?
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Thanks.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Andrew Purtell <apurt...@apache.org> 于2022年9月27日周二 06:52写道:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> It has been about a month since 2.5.0 and there are ~42 issues
> > > >>>>>> <
> > > >>>>>
> > >
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%3Dhbase%20and%20(%20fixVersion%3D2.5.1%20or%20affectedVersion%20%3D%202.5.1%20)
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%3Dhbase%20and%20(%20fixVersion%3D2.5.1%20or%20affectedVersion%20%3D%202.5.1%20)>
> > > <
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%3Dhbase%20and%20(%20fixVersion%3D2.5.1%20or%20affectedVersion%20%3D%202.5.1%20)
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%3Dhbase%20and%20(%20fixVersion%3D2.5.1%20or%20affectedVersion%20%3D%202.5.1%20)>
> > >
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> related to 2.5.1. This week I will be grooming the issue tracker
> > > for a RC
> > > >>>>>> next week.If you have any pending work for branch-2.5 that you
> > > would like
> > > >>>>>> to get in, please set the fix version accordingly.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>> Best regards,
> > > >>>>>> Andrew
> > > >>>>>
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Andrew
>
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