On 6 June 2013 16:03, Oleg Kalnichevski <[email protected]> wrote: > On Thu, 2013-06-06 at 15:57 +0100, sebb wrote: >> On 6 June 2013 15:43, Oleg Kalnichevski <[email protected]> wrote: >> > On Thu, 2013-06-06 at 15:24 +0100, sebb wrote: >> >> On 6 June 2013 15:08, Oleg Kalnichevski <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > On Thu, 2013-06-06 at 08:57 -0400, Karl Wright wrote: >> >> >> Can you elaborate as to what you feel are the advantages of gradle? >> >> >> Why do >> >> >> you want to switch over? >> >> >> >> >> >> Karl >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > Both build frameworks have their pros and cons. There is enough material >> >> > on the web specially after several high profile projects having moved to >> >> > Gradle. >> >> > >> >> > I am quite fine with Maven itself but some its plugins are just plain >> >> > horrible. One of which is the site plugin. >> >> >> >> +1 >> >> >> >> And the release plugin. >> >> >> > >> > And assembly. I just did not want to sound too negative about Maven. >> >> I find that OK. >> > > Right. And how about having to fix line delimiters with an And > script? ;-)
That's an unusual use-case. >> >> > Now that we have to use >> >> > SvnPubSub for web site publishing, Maven Site plugin simply causes more >> >> > trouble and helping with the process. And here comes the main drawback >> >> > of Maven for me as a HC release manager: one can do anything with Maven >> >> > but nontrivial operations simply require creation of a custom binary >> >> > plugin. >> >> >> >> I agree here. >> >> >> >> > The trouble with this approach in the context of ASF is that >> >> > every little modification of deployment logic would require a bloody >> >> > release vote. >> >> >> >> In Commons we agreed to use lazy consensus for Commons Parent pom updates. >> >> >> >> Since build helpers are not really part of the formal HC release, I >> >> don't see why that approach should not be extended to ASF-specific >> >> Maven plugins created for use in HC. >> >> >> > >> > What does it take to adopt the same model for parent, notice-plugin and >> > (to be created) hc-style-check? >> >> I think it's enough for us to hold a vote. >> > > For all three at the same time? Why not? They all serve a similar purpose. > Oleg > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
