Hey

On 9/6/21 12:48 PM, Stamatis Zampetakis wrote:
Indeed this may lead to binary incompatibility problems as the one you
mentioned. If I understood correctly the problem you cite comes up if
library B in this case is not relocated. If Hive systematically relocates
shaded deps do you think there will still be binary incompatibility issues?

If the relocating solution works, I would personally prefer going down this
path instead of introducing an entirely new module just for the sake of
dependency management. Most of the time when there are problems with
shading the answer comes from relocating the problematic dependencies and
people are more or less accustomed with this route.

I totally agree with you Stamatis - with the addition that we should work together with the owners of other projects to help them use the correct artifact to gain access to Hive's internal parts.
I've opened HIVE-25531 to remove the core classified artifact - and ensure that 
we will be uncovering and fixing future issues with the hive-exec artifact.

cheers,
Zoltan



Best,
Stamatis

On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 9:49 PM Daniel Fritsi <fdan...@cloudera.com.invalid>
wrote:

Dear Hive developers,

I am Dan from the Oozie team and I would like to bring up the
hive-exec.jar vs. hive-exec-core.jar topic.
The reason for that is because as far as we understand the official
recommendation from the Hive team is to use the hive-exec.jar artifact.

However in Oozie that can end-up in a binary incompatibility.

The reason for that is:

   * Let's say library A is included in the fat Jar.

   * And library B which is using library A is also included in the fat Jar.

   * Let's also say that library A's com.library.alib package is
     relocated to org.apache.hive.com.library.alib,
     meaning the com.library.alib.SomeClass becomes
     org.apache.hive.com.library.alib.SomeClass

   * So if B has a method like public void
     someMethod(com.library.alib.SomeClass) then the signature of this
     method will be changed to:
     public void someMethod(org.apache.hive.com.library.alib.SomeClass)

   * If Oozie is also using B directly meaning we'll have b.jar on our
     classpath, but with the unchanged signature,
     so when hive-exec tries to invoke someMethod then depending on
     whether b.jar coming from us will be loaded first or hive-exec will,
     we can end-up with a NoSuchMethodError is hive-exec tries to pass an
     org.apache.hive.com.library.alib.SomeClass instance to the
     someMethod which was loaded from the original b.jar.

Hence in Oozie a long time ago (OOZIE-2621
<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OOZIE-2621>) the decision was
made to use the hive-exec-core Jar.

Now since the shading process actually removes those dependencies from
the hive-exec pom which are included in the fat Jar, we manually had to
add some dependencies to Oozie to compensate this.
However these dependencies are not used by Oozie directly and with the
growing features of hive-exec we had to repeat the same process
over-and-over which is a bit unmaintainable.

Today I'm writing to you to propose a long-term solution where basically
nothing would change in the generated hive artifacts, poms and the same
time we wouldn't have to manually declare dependencies in Oozie which
are not explicitly used by us.

The solution:

  1. We would create a new module named hive-exec-dependencies which
     would be a pom-packaging module without any Java source files.
  2. All the dependencies declared in hive-exec would be moved to
     hive-exec-dependencies.
  3. We would make the hive-exec-dependencies module the parent of
     hive-exec and with this hive-exec would still have access to the
     same dependencies as before.
  4. The maven shade plugin would still strip the dependencies from the
     generated hive-exec pom which are included in the fat Jar.
  5. And with a small maven plugin we'd change hive-exec's parent back
     from hive-exec-dependencies to the root hive project in the
     generated hive-exec pom file.

I have a change ready locally and it works as described above.

With this on the Oozie side we could add a dependency on
hive-exec-dependencies and hence all the required libraries which are
included in the fat Jar would be pulled into Oozie.
The next time a new dependency would be added to hive-exec-dependencies,
the Oozie build would pull it in automatically without us having to
explicitly declare it.

Please let me know what you think.

Best,
Dan


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