Zhihua brought up a good point. Yes if it was introduced in
4.0.0-alpha and then was deprecated we can remove it.

On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 1:00 PM Attila Turoczy
<aturo...@cloudera.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> +1 from me as well. Let's clean it up. Still, because we have struggled
> with the data correctness issue, we have time to introduce these changes.
> If won't fit then won't be a problem as well, as the next release will
> contain it. As I wrote earlier, as the 4.0 goes out I want to help to have
> regular releases. Even majors. I have started a proposal document about a
> public hive roadmap, and release roadmap that I want to share and discuss
> with the community.
>
> -Attila
>
> On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 12:37 PM dengzhhu653 <dengzhhu...@163.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> >
> > Thanks Sai for driving this, the request based API makes sense to me.
> > For the removal of deprecated API:
> >  a) +1 if it is marked as deprecated in 3.x;
> >  b) If the API is introduced after 4.0.0-alpha, but tend to become
> > obsolete in 4.x GA, I think we can remove it as well.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Zhihua.
> > At 2023-06-01 17:56:03, "Ayush Saxena" <ayush...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >+1 to what Stamatis said, if it is there in 3.X we can explore their
> > removal, else let them go in 4.x GA release and we can remove then in the
> > subsequent release
> > >
> > >-Ayush
> > >
> > >> On 01-Jun-2023, at 3:08 PM, Stamatis Zampetakis <zabe...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hello,
> > >>
> > >> Ideally we should deprecate APIs in one release and remove them in a
> > >> subsequent major release. If the HMS deprecations were added in Hive
> > >> 3.X then I am ok removing them now. Otherwise it is not really that we
> > >> will remove deprecated APIs but we will remove regular APIs without
> > >> any notice.
> > >>
> > >> Best,
> > >> Stamatis
> > >>
> > >>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 2:57 AM Sai Hemanth Gantasala
> > >>> <saihema...@cloudera.com.invalid> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi everyone,
> > >>>
> > >>> This thread is to initiate a discussion on the removal of deprecated
> > APIs
> > >>> in the HMS thrift class. Any client including HiveMetastoreClient
> > talks to
> > >>> HiveMetaStore Server via the thrift layer. Over the past few years, the
> > >>> thrift class is bloated with duplicated APIs with varying parameters
> > >>> (function overloading) in the API definition. The reason why the APIs
> > are
> > >>> being deprecated is that the API might need an additional argument, so
> > a
> > >>> new API is added with an additional argument, and mark the old API as
> > >>> deprecated.
> > >>>
> > >>> I'm working on HIVE-26537 <
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVE-26537>
> > >>> to clean up the code around the interaction between
> > HiveMetaStoreClient and
> > >>> HMS to not use the deprecated APIs (the HMS client will now be using
> > >>> request-based APIs instead of APIs using individual arguments). Going
> > >>> forward, using these request-based APIs is ideal as we can just add an
> > >>> additional field to request object definition in the thrift class and
> > API
> > >>> remains unchanged. This would hopefully require minimal changes between
> > >>> client and server interaction in the future.
> > >>>
> > >>> I would like to hear the community member's opinions regarding the
> > >>> deprecated APIs,
> > >>> 1) Keep the deprecated APIs for the 4.x release, HMSClient will use the
> > >>> request-based APIs, So that would keep the older clients compatible
> > with
> > >>> the new HMS server.
> > >>> 2) Remove the deprecated APIs for the 4.x release. This would break
> > >>> backward compatibility with the older clients but we have the
> > opportunity
> > >>> to clean up a lot of deprecated code. Since we are making a major
> > release
> > >>> after 5 years, I hope this incompatibility is acceptable.
> > >>>
> > >>> Please let me know your thoughts.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> Sai.
> >

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