Hi,

Just to add my 2 cents to this discussion:
- I've been using hivemind for about 3 years now in many projects
- I am very satisfied with it
- It has some small bugs but nothing that prevents anyone from working with it - Hivemind utilities provides a lot of useful functionality not provided by the core package, and perhaps should be mentioned in the core documentation - I see no reason for a 2.0 version or any reason at all why it should keep "evolving". It is just nice the way it is. - The only thing that could use a big improvement in my opinion is documentation.


Regards,
 - Juliano



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Hi Hivemind team,

with some sadness and some astonishment I discovered your discussion about letting hivemind die and all this stuff. This was a reason for me to stand up for hivemind. I was a hivemind user right from the start (in 2003) and I brought it into two companies (Entire Wilken AG, www.entire.de and innoWake GmbH, www.innowake.de) as the application backbone for at least two big application frameworks. I loved hivemind right from the start for its simplicity and ability to do very complex things. Back in 2003 we did a comparison of hivemind, spring and eclipse for its abilities to serve as the framework backbone and decided that hivemind would do the best.

The top reasons were:

1. Simplicity
2. Use of interfaces instead of beans as means of describing services
3. ability to modularize the application heavily in a simple and convenient way 4. Simple creation of a plugin concept through the use of the configuration elements in hivemind

In my opinion the points 2. and 4. are completly missing in spring and are of no small concern. If you wish to build a complex application that consists of many modules/plugins (take your favourite pick), then you need some extension mechanism like the one in the eclipse platform (extension point and extension). The concept of configuration points and contribution is a very simple but powerful way similar to the one in eclipse and this was our major reason to use hivemind and not spring.

I hope I could sum up some reasons why hivemind is so great and tell you guys that it is still used. Keep up your work, don't let yourself get depressed because spring seems such a big player. It is a bit like david vs goliath, but it would be very sad if the diversity of ioc containers would lack such a good component as hivemind is.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Kind regards

Christian Domsch
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