I asked around and Hans even thought I couldn't or shouldn't vote.
Thanks for listing the things you checked because it was and still is very
unclear to me.

Cheers,
Matt

Op zo 20 dec. 2020 08:43 schreef Bart Maertens <[email protected]>:

> Hi Julian,
>
> Fair points, as always.
>
> I can only speak for myself, but I think most people in the community
> mainly expected votes and feedback on this first RC from our mentors and
> possibly other people who are more familiar with the Apache Way.
>
> That said, we can definitely do more. We can add some information about the
> release process to our community page[1]: a brief explanation of the
> release/voting process, a checklist of what the community can do to review
> a release, a quick explanation of the binding vs non-binding votes etc.
> There is a lot of information available about the release and voting
> processes, but I guess expecting people to go out and find that information
> on their own before they start to review and vote won't work.
>
> Regards,
> Bart
>
> [1] https://hop.apache.org/community/contributing/
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 1:20 AM Julian Hyde <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi, Hop community,
> >
> > “It takes a village to raise a child”, so the saying goes, and it takes a
> > community to make a good release. Making releases, and in particular
> > reviewing and voting for releases, is a central part of the Apache Way.
> >
> > Hans created a release candidate (RC) 3 days ago and so far there has
> only
> > been 1 vote [1]. I encourage everyone to download the release, review it,
> > and send an email casting your vote. PPMC members’ votes are binding, but
> > the opinion of committers and other people in the community matters, too.
> >
> > You might say, ‘What’s the point of voting, since Julian has already cast
> > a -1 vote?’. Two reasons. First, a -1 vote is not a veto; a release vote
> > with 5 +1 votes and 2 -1 votes would pass, because there are 3 more +1
> > votes than -1 votes. (That said, the release manager has the power to
> > cancel a release candidate even if it has the enough +1 votes.) Second,
> > even if the RC fails, we would like to know all of the issues in this RC
> so
> > that we can fix them in the next RC.
> >
> > So, please vote on RC1 as soon as you can.
> >
> > Hans,
> >
> > Usually the release manager casts a vote when they send out the vote
> > email. E.g. “Here is my vote: +1.”
> >
> > Julian
> >
> > [1]
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r7415319f474f20c4715f291d27a133355124a9bd10aeccf1904b45c4%40%3Cdev.hop.apache.org%3E
>

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