Thanks, guys.  I will post to the incubator list in a sec.

best,
Colin

On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Elliott Clark <[email protected]> wrote:
> +1 on the RC as well.
>
> Checked the hash.
> Created a test app using the api.
> Built from src.
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 8:37 PM, Stack <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Colin P. McCabe <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > There are at least 3 RPC compatibility-breaking changes in
>> > htrace-htraced between 4.0.1 and 4.1.0:
>> >
>> > HTRACE-315 changed the default port for htraced's HTTP interface from
>> > 9095 to 9096.
>> > HTRACE-237 changes the HTTP wire format slightly for htraced.
>> > Previous to this, we just sent a whitespace-separated list of trace
>> > spans.  After this, we send an actual JSON object.
>> > HTRACE-308 (Deserialize WriteSpans requests incrementally rather than
>> > all at once) changes the field "Spans" in the HRPC header to
>> > "NumSpans".  It also decreases the maximum RPC size,
>> > MAX_HRPC_BODY_LENGTH, from 64 MB to 32 MB.
>> >
>> >
>> Thanks Colin.
>>
>>
>> > To be honest, the main point of 4.0.1 was to stabilize the
>> > htrace-core4 API and make a first release with the GUI.  There was a
>> > lot of unfinished business in htraced-- things that we only got to
>> > 4.1.  htraced is way more stable in 4.1 since we dealt with things
>> > like GC pressure, the client side, and so forth.  And also just fixing
>> > bugs.  I think we should accept the compatibility break with 4.0.1.
>> > However, I agree that it would be nice to support the "old client, new
>> > server" case.  I filed HTRACE-344 to add a mechanism that makes it
>> > easier to detect the case where the client is too new, and give back a
>> > reasonable response.  I don't think we should adopt a formal
>> > compatibility policy-- htraced is not mature enough for that.  But we
>> > can strive to maintain compatibility harder than we have in 4.2 (or
>> > whatever the next release ends up being.)
>> >
>> >
>> Ok. Thats good enough I'd say.
>>
>> +1 on the 4.1 RC.
>>
>> I checked hash and signature. Built from src and all unit tests passed.
>> Started up htraced and put in a few spans with the client.
>>
>> St.Ack
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > best,
>> > Colin
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Stack <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Colin P. McCabe <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 8:10 PM, Stack <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > >> > "The rationale for this limitation is that tracing can simply be
>> > disabled
>> > >> > for a brief period during the rolling upgrade process."
>> > >> >
>> > >> > The second time an operator has to do this, they'll just throw away
>> > >> tracing
>> > >> > as a PITA.
>> > >>
>> > >> Let's put this in perspective.  Apache Spark recently transitioned
>> > >> from Scala 2.10 to 2.11.  Those Scala releases aren't binary
>> > >> compatible.  They aren't even source-code compatible, which means that
>> > >> people potentially had to rewrite their Spark jobs just to perform an
>> > >> upgrade... let alone have things continue to work during the upgrade.
>> > >> And people didn't throw away Spark; it's more popular than ever.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > > By 'perspective', you mean others made a mess so we can too?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> Now: It makes sense for a storage system (particularly a mature and
>> > >> widely-deployed one) to bend over backwards to stay up during
>> > >> upgrades.  That's why HDFS is so strict about this, and HBase as well.
>> > >> But they weren't always that strict; we used to break RPC
>> > >> compatibility with every release in the earlier days.  Also, HTrace is
>> > >> not a storage system!  It's a tracing system.  It can be unavailable
>> > >> for a few hours.  It will be OK.
>> > >>
>> > >> What's not OK is for us to have CLASSPATH conflicts within a minor
>> > >> version of htrace-core4 that will create problems during rolling
>> > >> upgrades.  It is not OK to remove APIs in htrace-core4, and so forth
>> > >> and so on.  We thought about this stuff very carefully when coming up
>> > >> with the compatibility policy to determine what was acceptable and
>> > >> what was not.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > > I'm not talking about CLASSPATH, I'm talking about the sending of
>> spans.
>> > >
>> > > Do you know for sure that a 4.0.1 client can't talk to a 4.1.0-based
>> > sink?
>> > > If so, do you know what is broke?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks Colin,
>> > > St.Ack
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> As the project matures, we can think about adopting a more generous
>> > >> (and much more difficult to implement) compatibility policy on a
>> > >> component-by-component basis.  But currently, a lot of the components
>> > >> are not very mature.  For example, htrace-flume has seen very little
>> > >> development.  htrace-htraced is probably the most mature component,
>> > >> but a lot of its features are new.  4.0.1 was the first release with a
>> > >> real GUI and usable client support.  Trying to implement an HDFS or
>> > >> HBase-style compatibility policy right now would slow down development
>> > >> greatly, for no gain.
>> > >>
>> > >> best,
>> > >> Colin
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Tracing needs to bend to serve the traced systems, not the other way
>> > >> around.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > A 4.0.1 can't talk to a 4.1.0? Do you know how it is broken?
>> > >> >
>> > >> > St.Ack
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Colin P. McCabe <
>> [email protected]>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> Our compatibility policy (see
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >>
>> >
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/htrace-dev/201509.mbox/%[email protected]%3E
>> > >> >> ) only covers the htrace-core4 API right now.  So we can guarantee
>> > >> >> that any projects using htrace-core 4.0.1 can upgrade to
>> htrace-core
>> > >> >> 4.1.0 without breaking anything.  (This is a more painful guarantee
>> > >> >> than it sounds since it means we can't remove functions, only
>> > >> >> deprecate them...  And so forth.)  But it's a very useful guarantee
>> > >> >> for our downstream projects.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> However, we don't support mixing and matching versions of the
>> > >> >> SpanReceiver client and server components.  The admin has to roll
>> out
>> > >> >> a uniform version of those components-- for example, using htraced
>> > >> >> 4.0.1 with htrace-htraced.jar 4.1.0 is not supported.  The
>> rationale
>> > >> >> for this limitation is that tracing can simply be disabled for a
>> > brief
>> > >> >> period during the rolling upgrade process.  Also, the different
>> > >> >> SpanReceiver subprojects are at different levels of maturity, and
>> > >> >> imposing heavy compatibility guarantees would slow down development
>> > >> >> for no real gain.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> best,
>> > >> >> Colin
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Stack <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > >> >> > Can a 4.0.1 client talk to a 4.1.0 htrace? Has it been tested?
>> > >> >> > St.Ack
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 7:00 PM, Colin P. McCabe <
>> > [email protected]>
>> > >> >> wrote:
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> Hi all,
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> I've posted the second release candidate for HTrace 4.1 here:
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~cmccabe/htrace/releases/4.1.0/rc2/
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> The jars have been staged here:
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >>
>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachehtrace-1022
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> Compared to rc1, this rc includes HTRACE-334 and HTRACE-342.
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> HTrace 4.1 brings a lot of robustness improvements.  There were
>> > major
>> > >> >> >> improvements to htraced and the web UI, as well as new metrics
>> > added.
>> > >> >> >> There were numerous build fixups, and we added Docker support,
>> to
>> > >> >> >> ensure a repeatable build.
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> Check it out.  The vote will run for 5 days.
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> cheers,
>> > >> >> >> Colin
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> Release Notes - HTrace - Version 4.1
>> > >> >> >> ** Bug
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-114] - Fix compilation error of htrace-hbase
>> against
>> > >> >> >> hbase-1.0.0
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-238] - Change maven compiler source level to 1.7
>> to
>> > >> >> >> match targetJdk
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-243] - Remove duplicate maven-assembly-plugin
>> > >> >> >> configuration section in htrace-htraced/pom.xml
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-245] - NOTICE.txt: change "developed by The Apache
>> > >> >> >> Software...” to "developed at The Apache Software...”
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-246] - HTrace WebApp not properly defined and
>> > therefore
>> > >> >> >> not packaged into .war
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-248] - HTraced should gracefully shutdown if
>> stopped
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-249] - Script and doc on how to publish website
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-251] - Fix "mvn clean" target
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-253] - Tracer loadSamplers and loadSpanReceivers
>> > logs
>> > >> >> >> are too chatty
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-256] - Change the artifactId for htrace-core in
>> > branch
>> > >> >> >> 4.0 to be htrace-core4
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-257] - htrace-htraced: add web symlink rather than
>> > >> >> >> generating programmatically
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-262] - Temporarily suppress doclint for Java 8 to
>> > >> >> >> prevent build failure
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-266] - Make the
>> CLIENT_REST_MAX_SPANS_AT_A_TIME_KEY
>> > >> >> >> config key more consistent with other configs
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-267] - Move owl logo licensing information from
>> > NOTICE
>> > >> to
>> > >> >> >> LICENSE
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-268] - Remove Units and go-codec from LICENSE
>> since
>> > >> they
>> > >> >> >> are not contained in the source release
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-272] - TracerPool must not load multiple inscance
>> of
>> > >> >> >> same receiver class when a simple classname is given
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-279] - Fix issues where the HTracedSpanReceiver
>> was
>> > >> >> >> using the wrong JSON serialization for spans and add validation
>> to
>> > >> >> >> htraced REST ingest path
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-280] - htraced: add metrics about total spans
>> added
>> > and
>> > >> >> >> dropped per address
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-281] - htraced: add example/htraced-conf.xml
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-282] - htraced: reap spans which are older than a
>> > >> >> >> configurable interval
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-283] - Heartbeater should wait for goroutine to
>> > finish
>> > >> on
>> > >> >> >> close
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-284] - htrace-htraced, htrace-flume: do not treat
>> > the
>> > >> >> >> shaded version of commons-logging as provided
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-285] - htraced tool: fix query parsing and add
>> > >> query_test
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-289] - Fix TraceEnabled, etc. logger methods for
>> > >> >> >> conditional logging
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-294] - htraced: fix some metrics issues
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-297] - htraced: avoid serializing spans to json
>> > unless
>> > >> >> >> TRACE logging is enabled
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-300] - Reaper should be initialized before shards
>> > are
>> > >> >> >> activated
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-301] - htraced: fix unit tests that aren't waiting
>> > for
>> > >> >> >> spans to be written, use semaphore for WrittenSpans
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-302] - htraced: Add admissions control to HRPC to
>> > limit
>> > >> >> >> the number of incoming messages
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-304] - htraced: fix bug with GREATER_THAN queries
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-307] - htraced: queries sometimes return no
>> results
>> > >> even
>> > >> >> >> when many results exist due to confusion in iterator usage
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-311] - htraced: Fix logging to stdout via
>> > -Dlog.path=
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-316] - htrace-web: span.js issue: span ID string
>> > length
>> > >> >> >> is 32, not 36
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-317] - Fix the documentation for adding tracing to
>> > an
>> > >> >> >> application to reflect HTrace 4.x API changes
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-328] - htraced continues scanning in some cases
>> even
>> > >> >> >> when no more results are possible
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> ** Improvement
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-342] - centralize building instructions in
>> > BUILDING.txt
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-334] - htrace-web: Make limit of search and
>> children
>> > >> API
>> > >> >> >> configurable
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-129] - htraced: add /server/stats REST endpoint
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-156] - HTrace GUI: add about view
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-181] - gui: Split "about" screen
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-237] - Optimize htraced span receiver
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-239] - Add htrace/impl/TestZipkinSpanReceiver.java
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-260] - htrace-zipkin should not set the obsolete
>> > >> >> >> duration field in thrift
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-271] - Add log4j.properties to all submodule tests
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-276] - Shade classes into org.apache.htrace.shaded
>> > >> >> >> rather than org.apache.htrace
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-286] - htraced: improvements to logging, daemon
>> > >> startup,
>> > >> >> >> and configuration
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-290] - htraced: Fix per-faculty log level settings
>> > and
>> > >> >> >> add unit tests for conditional logging
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-291] - rename bin/htrace to bin/htracedTool
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-292] - "htracedTool version" should display the
>> git
>> > >> >> >> hash, and -Dgit.version option should be available for build
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-295] - htraced: setting span.expiry.ms to 0
>> should
>> > >> >> >> disable span expiry
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-296] - htraced tests: make sure local settings for
>> > >> >> >> HTRACED_WEB_DIR and HTRACE_CONF_DIR don't affect unit tests
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-298] - htraced: improve datastore serialization
>> and
>> > >> >> metrics
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-303] - Add client-side htraceDropped log file to
>> > track
>> > >> >> >> dropped spans
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-305] - htrace-web: Use greater-than-or-equal
>> rather
>> > >> than
>> > >> >> >> greater-than in more places
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-306] - htraced: logs should use UTC
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-308] - Deserialize WriteSpans requests
>> incrementally
>> > >> >> >> rather than all at once to optimize GC
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-310] - htracedTool: when there is an error
>> response,
>> > >> >> >> print the body of the response
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-312] - htraced: if GOMAXPROCS is left at 1, set it
>> > to
>> > >> >> >> the number of CPUs
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-313] - htraced span receiver clientDropped file
>> > should
>> > >> >> >> include timestamps
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-314] - htraced: make datastore loading safer
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-327] - HTRACE-327: improve htraced command-line
>> > parsing
>> > >> >> >> and add version command
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-334] - htrace-web: Make limit of search and
>> children
>> > >> API
>> > >> >> >> configurable
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-335] - htrace-web: Adjust size of span widget
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-339] - Major type in htrace-flume README
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> ** New Feature
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-235] - htrace-zipkin - add Kafka transport support
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-277] - htraced: Add /server/conf endpoint to get
>> > server
>> > >> >> >> configuration
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-278] - htraced: dump thread stacks and GC
>> statistics
>> > >> >> >> when SIGQUIT is sent
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-288] - htraced: Add a user interface to view
>> server
>> > >> >> >> version, metrics, and configuration
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-293] - htrace-web: control-click should fully
>> expand
>> > >> trace
>> > >> >> >> trees
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-299] - htraced: add /server/debugInfo REST
>> endpoint
>> > to
>> > >> >> >> get stack traces and GC stats
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-309] - htraced: improve leveldb configuration
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-323] - htrace-web: change the cursor to a spinner
>> > while
>> > >> >> >> a search is in progress
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-332] - htraced: optionally enable leveldb LRU
>> cache
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> ** Task
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-241] - Docker image for HTrace
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-315] - htraced: change default web port from 9095
>> to
>> > >> 9096
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-319] - mark versions 4.0 and 4.0.1 as released
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-331] - create git tags for 4.0 and 4.0.1 releases
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> ** Wish
>> > >> >> >>     * [HTRACE-269] - HTraceConfiguration support to get the map
>> of
>> > >> >> >> configurations
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >>
>> >
>>

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