On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 9:53 PM, Christopher <ctubb...@apache.org> wrote:

> If this vote (or a decision from IPMC) successfully retires the project,
> does it go to the attic? Or is that only for retired TLPs? If not, where
> does it go?
>

>From http://incubator.apache.org/guides/retirement.html: "Retiring a
podling is analogous to moving a top-level Apache project to the Attic, but
podlings receive a lower level of ongoing support — for example, podling
websites are deleted outright rather than munged to indicate retired
status."


>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 12:27 AM lewis john mcgibbney <lewi...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Folks,
> > The decision to initiate retirement is not usually an enjoyable one. It
> > would appear that those whose of us who have VOTE'd have made it quite
> > clear that retirement is the right thing to do.
> > According to whimsy however [0], we do not currently have enough PPMC
> > VOTE's to move forward with closing this VOTE with any RESULT. Actually,
> > not one member of the PPMC has VOTE'd yet which is pretty discouraging.
> At
> > this stage I think that we should most likely consult the
> general@incubator
> > list to seek consensus on how to proceed.
> > It should be noted that it is really the Mentors who have contributed to
> > this VOTE thread with VOTE's. I think that this speaks volumes for
> HTrace's
> > ability to sustain itself as a viable podling.
> >
> > The VOTE has been open for at least 72 hours with the following outcome.
> >
> > [4] +1 retire the HTrace podling
> > Sean Busbey
> > Jake Farrell
> > Mike Drob
> > Michael Stack
> >
> > [0] -1 NOT NOT retire the HTrace podling (please provide justification)
> >
> > I have not yet VOTE'd. I am completely aware of the fact however that
> this
> > is crunch time for HTrace. I think we either need to graduate as a
> > subproject OR draft a retirement resolution and propose that HTrace be
> > sucked into the Attic. I personally would like to see one/more of the
> > following taking place
> >
> >    - HTrace PPMC to engage with the VOTE if possible
> >    - Sean Busbey/Sheng Wu/Christopher (ctubbsii)/Billie Rinaldi step up
> and
> >    propose a path for HTrace to graduate as a subproject of project X.
> >
> > I'll hang on with the VOTE for another ~72 hours and if nothing come of
> the
> > above then I will most likely VOTE to retire HTrace.
> >
> > Lewis
> >
> > [0] https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/htrace
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 6:49 AM, lewis john mcgibbney <lewi...@apache.org
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Folks,
> > > Below I've populated our report for the month of March 2018.
> > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2018 (also below)
> > > I've basically initiated the Retirement sentiment which has been
> > prevalent
> > > within the HTrace community for some time. I would therefore like to
> > > formally open a VOTE to retire HTrace from the Incubator.
> > > The VOTE will be open for at least 72 hours.
> > > [ ] +1 retire the HTrace podling
> > > [ ] -1 NOT NOT retire the HTrace podling (please provide justification)
> > > Lewis
> > >
> > > ===================
> > >
> > > HTrace
> > >
> > > HTrace is a tracing framework intended for use with distributed systems
> > > written in java.
> > >
> > > HTrace has been incubating since 2014-11-11.
> > >
> > > Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
> > >
> > >   1. -
> > >   2. -
> > >   3. -
> > >
> > > Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
> > > aware of?
> > >
> > > The HTrace podling has seen no code activity in months. Discussion of
> > > sending it to the Attic have been circulating for some time as well.
> > > After literally no activity again over the last few months, it looks
> like
> > > it is time to progress with sending HTrace to the Attic.
> > >
> > > How has the community developed since the last report?
> > >
> > > It has not.
> > >
> > > How has the project developed since the last report?
> > >
> > > It has not.
> > >
> > > How would you assess the podling's maturity?
> > > Please feel free to add your own commentary.
> > >
> > >   [X] Initial setup
> > >   [X] Working towards first release
> > >   [X] Community building
> > >   [ ] Nearing graduation
> > >   [X] Other: No actiity.
> > >
> > > Date of last release:
> > >
> > >   2016-03-04
> > >
> > > When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
> > >
> > >   2016-10-03
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by:
> > >
> > >   [ ](htrace) Jake Farrell
> > >      Comments:
> > >   [ ](htrace) Todd Lipcon
> > >      Comments:
> > >   [X](htrace) Lewis John Mcgibbney
> > >      Comments: In our January 2018 report we mentioned that
> > >      "HTrace is very quiet. There is opportunity to continue
> > >      work if we engage with projects already using HTrace. If that does
> > not
> > >      happen, we should retire the podling." We should therefore retire
> > the
> > > podling.
> > >   [ ](htrace) Andrew Purtell
> > >      Comments:
> > >   [ ](htrace) Billie Rinaldi
> > >      Comments:
> > >   [ ](htrace) Michael Stack
> > >
> > > --
> > > http://home.apache.org/~lewismc/
> > > http://people.apache.org/keys/committer/lewismc
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://home.apache.org/~lewismc/
> > http://people.apache.org/keys/committer/lewismc
> >
>

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