The reason for the "-e" parameter was to solve the following problem on NetWare. If you are not familiar with the NetWare console, just remember that NetWare is not a general purpose OS and does not have a command shell like most other OS's. By default starting Apache on NetWare creates a new console screen that displays the standard Apache startup information. If anything goes wrong before the error_log is opened, the error message is displayed on the Apache console screen and the screen is left open until a user hits a key. This allows the user to view the error message and take action as you would expect. The downside is that NetWare is intended to be a headless OS, which means that the user should not have to interact directly with the console to resolve a problem. In addition, if Apache is started at boot time, much like a Windows service, holding a screen open on an error condition stops the server from booting completely (a long story but mostly due to the fact that the console display is single threaded). Therefore NetWare needed a way to allow a screen to be opened, not hold the console screen open on an error condition and still display the error message to the user. If we just forced the console screen to close then the error message would be lost. So the "-e" parameter simply tells Apache to output to the logger screen on NW6 or the main console on NW5.1 before forcing the screen to close. After having explained the reason why NetWare needs the "-e" parameter, I think the real issue is not the functionality but the parameter definition (ie. the use of "-e" itself). The parameter itself is not really important to me. It can be anything. What is important is the functionality. If we need to change "-e" to something else, I have not problem with that. This same functionality has not been implemented in Apache2 only because I have not determined yet it we have the same problem. The infrastructure under Apache2 is completely different from Apache 1.3 so holding the console screen open on an error condition does not seem to cause the same problem of stopping the machine from booting if Apache2 is loaded as a service at boot time and an error occurs.
Brad Brad Nicholes Senior Software Engineer Novell, Inc., a leading provider of Net business solutions http://www.novell.com >>> "William A. Rowe, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tuesday, June 04, 2002 10:32:03 PM >>> At 11:21 PM 6/4/2002, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: >At 10:58 AM 3/13/2002, you wrote: >>bnicholes 02/03/13 07:58:40 >> >> Modified: src/main http_main.c >> Log: >> Added the -e command line directive for NetWare to force all fatal >> configuration file errors to the logger screen rather than to the Apache >> screen. This allows Apache to shutdown cleanly and completely on an >> error condition without losing the error information that was written >> to the >> screen or requiring user interaction to close the Apache screen. > >Can we come up with some comprimize on flags so that 1.3 and 2.0 don't >start drifting? Unfortunately, both 2.0.36 and 1.3.24 introduced the two >different \ >meanings already. > >In terms of the new Netware -e meaning, it sure sounds like that feature aught >to be a default behavior, no? It really sounds sorta of similar to either >syslog >logging on Unix or Event logging on NT. To be more specific, -e sounds very much like the converse of the -w option on windows, which causes the window to remain open if an error is encountered at startup [preventing the window from being closed before the message can be read at the console.]