>> It's not anymore "cool" to work on Apache.

You nailed it - because no one knows where it's going. Where's the focus,
what does Apache really want to be, whose leading the charge?

I've been following this forum a long, long time and the change in the last
2 years has been the most dramatic - the old guard has gone, there is little
leadership and even less reason to do anything.

It takes a tremendous amount of work to build a quality software project and
sadly there is little enthusiasm to really improve Apache. 

One reason is obvious - with 66% of the market you're a monopoly (close) and
we've all seen what happens when competition disappears from the market
place.

Regards,


Peter


-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Lorch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 7:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: the wheel of httpd-dev life is surely slowing down, solutions
please

hi,

 > 2d). CRT seemed to come as a replacement for design discussions. It's
 > very easy to observe from the traffic numbers:

Please excuse the total ignorance of passive Apache-Dev readers, but
these abbreviations were new to me. I've found then im the Apache
Glossary, though, and provide them to all who didn't know them ei-
ther:

   http://incubator.apache.org/learn/glossary.html#CommitThenReview
   http://incubator.apache.org/learn/glossary.html#ReviewThenCommit

Not trying to start a flamewar, but could the Jakarta Project have
had an influence on the decline? Hal Flynn's [1] points out quite well
that for most server-sided applications Java (and it's clone .NET)
provide a viable platform for secure applications with negligible
impact on performance. And with all the fuss around J2EE (JBoss vs.
Geronimo) a new feature in Apache might not catch as much attention
in the community anymore. OpenSource is a development model which
bases on peer-based ego-gratification and if the incentives to work
on Apache aren't that high anymore, the Apache httpd server might not
be able to attract as many developers anymore. Or to put it in other
words: It's not anymore "cool" to work on Apache.

uuhmm .. <asbestos> or not? No intention to provoke, seriously. We're
all grownup people and our kids are going to read these mailinglists
in CS-history classes, so behave, please ;)

[1] http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/33859.html

-daniel


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