>> It's not anymore "cool" to work on Apache. You nailed it - because no one knows where it's going. Where's the focus, what does Apache really want to be, whose leading the charge?
I've been following this forum a long, long time and the change in the last 2 years has been the most dramatic - the old guard has gone, there is little leadership and even less reason to do anything. It takes a tremendous amount of work to build a quality software project and sadly there is little enthusiasm to really improve Apache. One reason is obvious - with 66% of the market you're a monopoly (close) and we've all seen what happens when competition disappears from the market place. Regards, Peter -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Lorch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 7:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: the wheel of httpd-dev life is surely slowing down, solutions please hi, > 2d). CRT seemed to come as a replacement for design discussions. It's > very easy to observe from the traffic numbers: Please excuse the total ignorance of passive Apache-Dev readers, but these abbreviations were new to me. I've found then im the Apache Glossary, though, and provide them to all who didn't know them ei- ther: http://incubator.apache.org/learn/glossary.html#CommitThenReview http://incubator.apache.org/learn/glossary.html#ReviewThenCommit Not trying to start a flamewar, but could the Jakarta Project have had an influence on the decline? Hal Flynn's [1] points out quite well that for most server-sided applications Java (and it's clone .NET) provide a viable platform for secure applications with negligible impact on performance. And with all the fuss around J2EE (JBoss vs. Geronimo) a new feature in Apache might not catch as much attention in the community anymore. OpenSource is a development model which bases on peer-based ego-gratification and if the incentives to work on Apache aren't that high anymore, the Apache httpd server might not be able to attract as many developers anymore. Or to put it in other words: It's not anymore "cool" to work on Apache. uuhmm .. <asbestos> or not? No intention to provoke, seriously. We're all grownup people and our kids are going to read these mailinglists in CS-history classes, so behave, please ;) [1] http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/33859.html -daniel