On Jul 27, 2006, at 1:36 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:

Roy T. Fielding wrote:
That line is for the product name, not the project name.

And - I understood that our product is the Apache HTTP Server, not httpd. At least that's been the consensus in the docs project for the last three
years.
Well, the docs project consensus is wrong.  Our main product is httpd
(one of several products) and our project is Apache HTTP Server Project. Change it back, please. It isn't important enough to stop the release, but I really don't appreciate people tweaking a file that I edited myself
just a couple weeks ago to contain the correct legal information.

Well, as I read it it was the incorrect legal information based on the
project's evolution and group concensus.  My appologies if I'm wrong.

Our product is

    apache_1.3.37.tar.gz
    httpd-2.0.59-win32-src.zip
    httpd-2.0.59.tar.gz
    httpd-2.2.3-win32-src.zip
    httpd-2.2.3.tar.gz

and the NOTICE files are tied to the source tree (httpd).

What is wrong with this page (and the rest of the website and project
files and...):

  http://httpd.apache.org/

Your title "httpd" is definately wrong. NCSA was httpd. Others ship httpd. This being "Apache httpd" at the very least invalidated the original NOTICE.

That is nonsense.

httpd is the name of -one- binary in the Apache HTTP Server, which includes a host of other binaries (e.g. support/) and the NOTICE file you placed
there applies to them all, no?

It is the name of the product containing a whole bunch of source code
and many binaries, one of which is sometimes called httpd.  The tarballs
are called httpd.  The legal notices will be called httpd, and the links
to the artifacts will be called httpd.  The only reason there is any
confusion at all regarding the name is because the windows installer
never used the right name.

I have this nagging suspicion that once again the project has offended
your sensibilities while your back was turned. Please be assured it wasn't
intentional, but that we had this back-and-forth for months before the
-project- determined it creates the Apache HTTP Server. A recent comment
to Mark reaffirms it, I didn't see your response?

I've been reading this dev list continuously for the past six years.
People discuss what to put in the Announcement text on every release,
but the only discussion I've seen about our product name was Paul's
suggestion we change it to "d".  Only recently did people start changing
the text to remove httpd, and that was certainly not by consensus.
Do you have a pointer, or are these just more off-list conversations?

....Roy

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