Sorry ~

Forget to say that my Confluence ID is danny0405.

It would be nice if any of you can help on this.

Best,
Danny Chan

Danny Chan <[email protected]> 于2021年1月6日周三 下午12:00写道:

> Hi, can someone give me the CWIKI permission so that i can update the
> design details to that (maybe as a new RFC though ~).
>
> wangxianghu <[email protected]> 于2021年1月5日周二 下午2:43写道:
>
>> + 1, Thanks Danny!
>> I believe this new feature OperatorConrdinator in flink-1.11 will help
>> improve the current implementation
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> XianghuWang
>>
>> At 2021-01-05 14:17:37, "vino yang" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >Hi,
>> >
>> >Sharing more details, the OperatorConrdinator is the part of the new Data
>> >Source API(Beta) involved in the Flink 1.11's release note[1].
>> >
>> >Flink 1.11 was released only about half a year ago. The design of RFC-13
>> >began at the end of 2019, and most of the implementation was completed
>> when
>> >Flink 1.11 was released.
>> >
>> >I believe that the production environment of many large companies has not
>> >been upgraded so quickly (As far as our company is concerned, we still
>> have
>> >some jobs running on flink release packages below 1.9).
>> >
>> >So, maybe we need to find a mechanism to benefit both new and old users.
>> >
>> >[1]:
>> >
>> https://flink.apache.org/news/2020/07/06/release-1.11.0.html#new-data-source-api-beta
>> >
>> >Best,
>> >Vino
>> >
>> >vino yang <[email protected]> 于2021年1月5日周二 下午12:30写道:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> +1, thank you Danny for introducing this new feature
>> >> (OperatorCoordinator)[1] of Flink in the recently latest version.
>> >> This feature is very helpful for improving the implementation
>> mechanism of
>> >> Flink write-client.
>> >>
>> >> But this feature is only available after Flink 1.11. Before that, there
>> >> was no good way to realize the mechanism of task upstream and
>> downstream
>> >> coordination through the public API provided by Flink.
>> >> I just have a concern, whether we need to take into account the users
>> of
>> >> earlier versions (less than Flink 1.11).
>> >>
>> >> [1]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-15099
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >> Vino
>> >>
>> >> Gary Li <[email protected]> 于2021年1月5日周二 上午10:40写道:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi Danny,
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks for the proposal. I'd recommend starting a new RFC. RFC-13 was
>> >>> done and including some work about the refactoring so we should mark
>> it as
>> >>> completed. Looking forward to having further discussion on the RFC.
>> >>>
>> >>> Best,
>> >>> Gary Li
>> >>> ________________________________
>> >>> From: Danny Chan <[email protected]>
>> >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2021 10:22 AM
>> >>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>> >>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] New Flink Writer Proposal
>> >>>
>> >>> Sure, i can update the RFC-13 cwiki if you agree with that.
>> >>>
>> >>> Vinoth Chandar <[email protected]> 于2021年1月5日周二 上午2:58写道:
>> >>>
>> >>> > Overall +1 on the idea.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Danny, could we move this to the apache cwiki if you don't mind?
>> >>> > That's what we have been using for other RFC discussions.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 1:22 AM Danny Chan <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > > The RFC-13 Flink writer has some bottlenecks that make it hard to
>> >>> adapter
>> >>> > > to production:
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > - The InstantGeneratorOperator is parallelism 1, which is a limit
>> for
>> >>> > > high-throughput consumption; because all the split inputs drain
>> to a
>> >>> > single
>> >>> > > thread, the network IO would gains pressure too
>> >>> > > - The WriteProcessOperator handles inputs by partition, that
>> means,
>> >>> > within
>> >>> > > each partition write process, the BUCKETs are written one by one,
>> the
>> >>> > FILE
>> >>> > > IO is limit to adapter to high-throughput inputs
>> >>> > > - It buffers the data by checkpoints, which is too hard to be
>> robust
>> >>> for
>> >>> > > production, the checkpoint function is blocking and should not
>> have IO
>> >>> > > operations.
>> >>> > > - The FlinkHoodieIndex is only valid for a per-job scope, it does
>> not
>> >>> > work
>> >>> > > for existing bootstrap data or for different Flink jobs
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > Thus, here I propose a new design for the Flink writer to solve
>> these
>> >>> > > problems[1]. Overall, the new design tries to remove the single
>> >>> > parallelism
>> >>> > > operators and make the index more powerful and scalable.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > I plan to solve these bottlenecks incrementally (4 steps), there
>> are
>> >>> > > already some local POCs for these proposals.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > I'm looking forward to your feedback. Any suggestions are
>> appreciated
>> >>> ~
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > [1]
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >
>> >>> >
>> >>>
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