Andrey, I think the reason for the waste is some sort of internal
ring-buffer allocation which can be turned off.

Alexey G, can you please comment?

D.

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 10:21 AM, Andrey Kornev <andrewkor...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> 50MB for an empty cache! That's a lot of emptiness!
>
> The Ignite team's recommendation to have one key/value type per cache now
> seems a little more dubious and difficult to follow in practice.
>
> Just curious, what is the reason for such waste? Is it because by default
> the initial cache size is set to 1.5M entries?
>
> Thanks
> Andrey
>
> > Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2016 17:45:33 +0300
> > Subject: Re: Full API coverage enhancement
> > From: ashu...@gridgain.com
> > To: dev@ignite.apache.org
> >
> > Sergey,
> >
> > I think we should start more caches, like 1000 in one time. But we have
> to
> > have enough memory on our TC agents. As I know, empty cache is require
> > about 50 mb (without indexing), am I right?
> >
> > You are right, I keep in mind that *backups* and *REPLICATED* mode make
> no
> > sense together, but we still have to test it in one node and multi node
> > casesю
> >
> > Any other *no sense* combinations?
> >
> > I forgot about custom BinaryConfiguration at IgniteConfiguration for
> > BinaryMarshaller. So, at least 6 IgniteConfigurations.
> >
> > -- Artem --
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Sergey Kozlov <skoz...@gridgain.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Artem
> > >
> > > It's good idea to create 20-30 cache configurations at once and then to
> > > iterate tests over those caches in parallel (but make sure that cache
> names
> > > are unique).
> > > Another point that some combinations make no sense like *backups *and
> > > *REPLICATED
> > > *cache
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Artem Shutak <ashu...@gridgain.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I have an update.
> > > >
> > > > I've started from *CacheConfiguration* permutations. I wrote out a
> list
> > > > with all CacheConfiguration setters and filtered it with Alexey G.
> > > >
> > > > Finally we have:
> > > >
> > > >    1. CacheMode - 3 variants
> > > >    2. CacheAtomicityMode - 2 variants
> > > >    3. CacheMemoryMode - 3 variants
> > > >    4. setLoadPreviousValue - 2 variants
> > > >    5. setReadFromBackup - 2 variants
> > > >    6. setStoreKeepBinary - 2 variants
> > > >    7. setRebalanceMode - SYNC and ASYNC (2 variants)
> > > >    8. setSwapEnabled - 2 variants
> > > >    9. setCopyOnRead - 2 variants
> > > >    10. NearConfiguration disabled / default NearConfiguration /
> custom
> > > >    NearConfiguration - 3 variants
> > > >    11. With and without a complex parameter. The complex parameter
> > > defines
> > > >    not-default Eviction policy and filter, cache store configuration
> > > >    (storeFactory and storeSessionListenerFactory), rebalancing
> > > > configuration,
> > > >    affinity function, offHeapMaxMemory, interceptor, topology
> validator
> > > and
> > > >    CacheEntryListener.
> > > >
> > > > I've run 123 Cache Full Api test cases for all permutations of
> parameters
> > > > 1-9 and got 256896 test cases (1152 configuration variants * 123 test
> > > > cases). All these tests take 4 hours 40 minutes. Not all tests pass,
> so
> > > MAY
> > > > BE when all tests will pass it will take less time (3,5 hours for
> > > example).
> > > >
> > > > As we can see the tests take a lot of time.
> > > >
> > > > The following permutation should be supported too:
> > > >
> > > >    1. Nodes count and Bakups count - 1 node and 0 backup, 3 nodes
> and 1
> > > >    backups, 4 nodes and 2 backups - 3 variants
> > > >    2. Client and Server nodes - 2 variants
> > > >    3. Indexing enabled and disabled for cache - 2 variants
> > > >    4. IgniteConfiguration permutations - how many variants? I see at
> > > least
> > > >    4 (2 Marshallers, P2P).
> > > >
> > > > Plus we need add new test cases to test different key and value
> types and
> > > > etc.
> > > >
> > > > So, we need multiply more then 3,5-4,5 hours on ~250. If we will
> split
> > > all
> > > > tests on 250 suites and run on all 30 TC agents it will take about
> 30-40
> > > > hours. Ok, we can do it during weekends.
> > > >
> > > > I think it will take too much time.
> > > >
> > > > As an option we can start a cache for each configuration and run
> tests
> > > > concurrently. But we need to implement this opportunity in our test
> > > > framework.
> > > >
> > > > Any other thoughts how we can decrease time for tests?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > -- Artem --
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 8:43 AM, Semyon Boikov <sboi...@gridgain.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Artem,
> > > > >
> > > > > One more thing for new tests: I think test should start both
> server and
> > > > > client nodes and use Ignite API from all nodes.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 6:40 PM, Artem Shutak <ashu...@gridgain.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Dmitriy,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Actually, I don't have a list with all the permutations.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At first, we need to split in our discussion test cases and
> Ignite
> > > > > > configuration which should be covered.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For example, new Full Api test cases for cache are based on old
> Full
> > > > Api
> > > > > > test cases. So, it need to think what the test cases was not
> covered
> > > > > > before.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > About Ignite configurations, I'm going to add permutation for
> each
> > > > > > IgniteConfiguration and CacheConfiguration property.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > By the way, the jira contains the following list of permutation
> (feel
> > > > > free
> > > > > > to add something):
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The following tests should be added (for functional blocks):
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    1. Interceptor
> > > > > >    2. Queries: continuous, scan, SQL, fields and text queries.
> > > > > >    3. cache events
> > > > > >    4. We should also test with Serializable, Externalizable, and
> > > plain
> > > > > >    Pojos for keys and values.
> > > > > >    5. The Pojo in the above test should contain an enum value
> > > > > >    6. We should also test Enums as keys and Enums as values
> > > > > >    7. All operations should have single-key and multi-key
> operations
> > > > > >
> > > > > > New tests should cover all combinations for following properties:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    1. cache modes
> > > > > >    2. operation from client nodes and server nodes
> > > > > >    3. store enabled/disabled
> > > > > >    4. evicts sycn/non-sync
> > > > > >    5. eviction policies
> > > > > >    6. near on/off
> > > > > >    7. marshallers (+ Binary marshaller with different mappers)
> > > > > >    8. keys and values - externalizable, serializable,
> binaryzable,
> > > > "none
> > > > > of
> > > > > >    previous"
> > > > > >    9. classes available on servers: true/false
> > > > > >    10. Peer loading on/off
> > > > > >    11. Affinity functions
> > > > > >    12. expiry policies
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > -- Artem --
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 6:14 PM, Dmitriy Setrakyan <
> > > > dsetrak...@apache.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Artem, I think it is best to specify all the permutations
> here, so
> > > > > others
> > > > > > > can make additional suggestions. Otherwise, we cannot get a
> full
> > > > > picture.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > D.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 2:02 AM, Artem Shutak <
> ashu...@gridgain.com
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Igniters,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I thought a little bit more and think we need to add a
> support
> > > for
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > following permutations too (I've added these to the jira
> > > > > description):
> > > > > > > > - We should also test with Serializable, Externalizable, and
> > > plain
> > > > > > Pojos
> > > > > > > > for keys and values.
> > > > > > > > - The Pojo in the above test should contain an enum value
> > > > > > > > - We should also test Enums as keys and Enums as values
> > > > > > > > - All operations should have single-key and multi-key
> operations
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Maybe someone see any other permutation to be supported?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -- Artem --
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 10:05 PM, Artem Shutak <
> > > > ashu...@gridgain.com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Dmitriy,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > There is a branch at my fork and a pull request at Ignite.
> See
> > > > > > comment
> > > > > > > > > about pull request at the ticket (PR-446).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > But I have to notice that the branch under hard
> development and
> > > > you
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > not work (have compilation or test errors) at some moments.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Good luck!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -- Artem --
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 9:45 PM, Dmitriy Setrakyan <
> > > > > > > dsetrak...@apache.org
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> Artem,
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> This is great. I have noticed from the ticket that you
> have
> > > > > created
> > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > >> initial suite already. Is there a branch I can look at it?
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> D.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Artem Shutak <
> > > > > ashu...@gridgain.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> > Igniters,
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > I'm working on an enhancement of Full API coverage [1]
> [2].
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > Ignite already has Full API test, but currently it's
> hard to
> > > > > test
> > > > > > > all
> > > > > > > > >> > configuration combinations.
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > Feel free to add comments in the jira if you have any
> > > thought.
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-2521
> > > > > > > > >> > [2]
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Implementing+Tests
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > >> > -- Artem --
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sergey Kozlov
> > > GridGain Systems
> > > www.gridgain.com
> > >
>
>

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