No, there still will be a case when BinaryObjectOffHeapImpl is put into
intermediate result set in a query, but concurrently removed and
deallocated from cache and index. Probably we could apply some fancy
technics like reference counting here, but I'm not sure.

Sergi

2016-04-21 22:59 GMT+03:00 Denis Magda <dma...@gridgain.com>:

> Sergi,
>
> However if we implement non snapshotable data structure to hold indexes
> (skip list or b-tree) then it will be feasible to optimize point 1) -
> working with off-heap data with BinaryObjectOffHeapImpl. Am I right?
>
> —
> Denis
>
> On Apr 21, 2016, at 5:27 PM, Sergi Vladykin <sergi.vlady...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> 1. In general it is not possible to keep BinaryObject in "attached"
> state, because at the query end we release snapshots and the entry can be
> concurrently removed with offheap memory deallocation, while result row is
> still needed.
>
> 2. Of course there are multiple alternatives (skiplist or b+tree), but
> we'll need to implement them over offheap memory, this will take some
> time...
>
> Sergi
>
>
> Sergi
>
> 2016-04-21 16:48 GMT+03:00 Denis Magda <dma...@gridgain.com>:
>
>> Sergi, Igniters,
>>
>> Big deployments store enormous amount of data in off-heap. If to keep
>> using such deployments under high load executing SQL queries and basic
>> cache operations in parallel then it’s easy to see that Java heap pressure
>> grows due to the bigger number of short live objects creation.
>>
>> I’ve been investigating Ignite code and noted the following
>>
>> 1) During SQL query execution off-heap data is unswapped and stored in
>> BinaryObjectImpl wrapper for columns comparison. Also as I see the same
>> happens when an index is updated.
>>
>> 2) Off-heap index tree is snapshotable. Taking into account hight update
>> and query rates, Java heap will be populated with much more short snapshots.
>>
>> Actually I think that we can try to lower the impact caused by 1) by
>> trying reusing BinaryObjectOffHeapImpl that allows to access fields
>> directly working with off-heap. What do you think, any obstacles?
>>
>> In regards to the second. Is there any alternatives to snapshotable tree
>> in general?
>>
>> —
>> Denis
>
>
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