Alex. Of course, some distributed operations will involve some kind of asynchrony even in synchronous mode. My point is that we should not blindly do things like that:
V get(K key) { return getAsync(key),get(); } Instead, get() has it's own path, getAsync() another path. But of course they could share some common places. E.g. I remember we already fixed some cache operations in this regard when users hit async semaphore limit when calling synchronous gets. Another point is that async instances may possibly accept user-provided Executor. Vladimir, On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 11:04 AM, Semyon Boikov <sboi...@gridgain.com> wrote: > Another issue which usually confuses users is Ignite 'implementation > details' of asynchronous execution: it operation is local it can be > executed from calling thread (for example, if 'async put' is executed in > atomic cache from primary node then cache store will be updated from > calling thread). Does it make sense to fix this as well? > > > On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Yakov Zhdanov <yzhda...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > Agree with Alex. Vova, please go on with issues taking Alex's comments > into > > consideration. > > > > Thanks! > > > > --Yakov > > > > 2016-07-21 10:43 GMT+03:00 Alexey Goncharuk <alexey.goncha...@gmail.com > >: > > > > > Big +1 on this in general. > > > > > > I would also relax our guarantees on operations submitted from the same > > > thread. Currently we guarantee that sequential invocations of async > > > operations happen in the same order. I think that if a user wants such > > > guarantees, he must define these dependencies explicitly by calling > > chain() > > > on returning futures. > > > > > > This change will significantly improve cache operations performance in > > > async mode. > > > > > > 3) Sync operations normally* should not* be implemented through async. > > This > > > > is a long story - if we delegate to async, then we have to bother > with > > > > additional threads, associated back-pressure control and all that > crap. > > > > Sync call must be sync unless there is a very strong reason to go > > through > > > > async path. > > > > > > > Not sure about this, though. In most cases a cache operation implies > > > request/response over the network, so I think we should have explicit > > > synchronous counterparts only for methods that are guaranteed to be > > local. > > > > > >